I didn't take offense, Priscilla. BTW, we now have a ver. 2 of the BCRAN course (haven't had a chance to review it yet -- another Winter Break project) and hopefully the new skills based final will be less stressful. Part of the problem with the first one was more with the ambiguous instructions rather than the knowledge level required.
Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > I wasn't criticizing the teacher. I just wanted to make that clear. ;-) > > Designing a final exam that everyone fails just seems like a poor method of > eduction. We learned to do the opposite in the education classes I took > recently. I realize that the design is Cisco's, not the Academy instructor's. > > Priscilla > > At 03:13 PM 12/14/01, you wrote: > >I resemble that remark! > > > >Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > >Community College of Southern Nevada > >Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > It sounds like some old-fashioned meanie wrote this test. > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > At 12:32 PM 12/14/01, brian hall wrote: > > > >Just a message to those who (like me!) thinking that reading, doing > > labs and > > > >taking multiple choice test will prepare you for the real world and > > > >(hopefully)the CCIE lab need to be exposed to cisco's network accademy > > > >semester 5 skills final . I just took it yesterday and failed . In > > fact the > > > >whole class failed!!!!. > > > > > > > >One of our students who scored high on most test and blazed through the > > > >final written exam in 10 mins, walked out in frustration . > > > >Another student who works as an administrator, was are best chance of > > having > > > >someone pass missed it . I myself knew after an hour that if you don't > > have > > > >those commands down cold with a solid understanding of how to > > implement them > > > >your GOOSE is cooked !!! . You do have the option to have your own > written > > > >notes to help but that might weigh you down if too much is in front of > > you . > > > >Working on idividual labs is one thing but putting the whole environment > > > >together is a whole different animal . > > > > > > > >Once given the actual skills asessment designing, implementing and > trouble > > > >shooting you assume that this ones in the bag . The environment wasn't > > large > > > >and looking back at the running config's there wasnt much to them > > other than > > > >having MED and CBAC . Ah!!! but how wrong I was!!! I'll spare the > details > > > >and say that this was an eye opener . It showed me what I really don't > > know > > > >and to do the job in the real world will take a lot work on my part . > > > > > > > >Buyer Beware !!! > > > > > > > >Overall it was good to go through and to be pushed just shows the weak > > areas > > > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > > > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > http://www.priscilla.com > ________________________ > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=29413&t=29212 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
