I am not laughing at all Justin.

I used to work for a shipping company and later for one of their shipping
agencies, and they had telex machines they used for satellite communication
to the ships. The other computer guy and I created a program that would
connect and exchange mail between two old Novell MHS e-mail systems, and we
later installed networks onboard the ships with e-mail and zmodem dialup
over satellite with our own created solutions. That actually worked perfect.

The only problem we ran into was when running cables and connecting
computers to eachother that way, because on a ship, the "ground" is not the
same in one end as the other, so we couldn't have them grounded, we had to
install a workstation in the engine control room all the way down in the
other end.

They stopped using the morsekey in 1994 onboard the ships, so one of the
nice captains gave me one. I used to be a telegraphist in the Royal Danish
Navy back in the 80's, so I am still looking at it once in a while, trying
to deside when to use it again for fun (you never forget those dots and
lines).

The sad thing is that the SSB (single side band) connection via satellites
and naval radio stations was more reliable in ugly weather and high waves
than our Frame Relay is today almost 20 years later. :-(

Ole

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-----Original Message-----
From: Justin C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone Higher? - FR Uptime [7:30920]


Our main facility (Los Angeles) has a T1 FR with Pacbell (SBC).  In the 
seven months I have been running the the IT department, I have seen the T1 
go down twice.  Once was due to the re-routing of the phone lines that come 
into the building.  The building is 70 years old, and the lines used to come

in underground and now come in above ground.  This was done in June, and I 
can see how this would cause some grief.  The second time was in November, 
and SBC admitted the problem but gave no reasons.  Service was unavailable 
for one hour.

One of our remote sites (Cincinnati) had a 128K FR with Williams 
Communications.  This was installed before I was responsible for network.  
Other than the initial startup problems (which I was told lasted about four 
months), the line seemed to run flawlessly.  The connection between the two 
offices was run on the "private" SBC backbone ... I.E. - the Cincinnati 
traffic to the Internet ran through our T1 line here LA, then back out the 
same T1 line to the Internet.  It was pretty ugly.  Even worse than that, 
the cost of the 128K FR from Williams was almost equal to the T1 line from 
SBC.  I switched this remote site to DSL from Cincinnati Bell, and connect 
to the main site through a VPN.  They get 560kB/s down and 350kB/s up.  As 
they have nothing that is mission critical and the company will never cough 
out for VoIP, it is perfect for them.  Over the course of six months, the 
DSL service was unavailable once, and was restored within an hour.  The 
biggest delta is the price.

While I am on the subject, you may enjoy a good laugh.  This company is 
privately owned, and had a teletype until 1995.  They only got rid of it 
because Pacbell said it was no longer supported.  Email was not implemented 
until the Summer of 1999.

Justin



From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
Reply-To: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Anyone Higher? - FR Uptime [7:30920]
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 09:31:57 -0500

During the years I have been administering frame relay, I have been dealing
with four different providers and four different telco's, but I have so far
not seen any circuit being up for a long time without problems.

I believe that the longest I have seen a f.r. circuit being up is about a
little less the half a year, and one of our providers had an average of
downing one of our circuit every 1.5 months.

We have four circuits (three branch offices and one corp.) with a provider,
and all three branch offices has now been down once (at different dates) in
less than four months.

So, I am looking for a possitive story in the Frame Relay world. Who can
with a smile tell me about a frame relay connection that has been up for a
year or more - or would that be totally sci-fi???

I am getting SOOOOOOOOO frustrated and irritated that I have to deal with so
much trouble with "simple" WAN connections.

Thanks,

Ole

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