Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you
a certificate in itself.  Only by passing both the written and the lab do
you obtain a cert.  I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people
can claim a certificate that doesn't exist.

While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written
is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending
that it's another cert?  Well, the real problem is that if people are
allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop
them from making up other qualifications that don't exist?  It's the classic
slippery slope.  For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert,
then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they
(A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass).  Or  a "CCIE-F" for somebody
who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE
program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture.  Or heck, how about
a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in
his life, but might do it in the future.  I don't know about you, but I hold
a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F),  a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all
from Harvard.




""Michael J. Doherty""  wrote in message
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> It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that the
> individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet
> challenged/passed the Lab.
>
> As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on
> advertising it in this manner.  If it comes up in an interview question, I
> would answer it.  But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume
until
> I can honestly claim the entire title.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Zeitz"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243]
>
>
> > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean?
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