I never meant to imply that you supported the practice. I should have said that some people treat this as a common practice, not that you were one of those people.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael J. Doherty" To: "nrf" ; Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] > Never said that I agreed with the practice. I am perfectly well aware of > Cisco's stance on the subject. > > My message, also, did not state that I thought that it is not a big deal. > Personally, if I were in a position responsible for hiring, all candidates > who posted that information in their resume would automatically find > themselves removed from consideration. > > I am proud of my own accomplishments and all of the initials that I can > place behind my name are placed with the full knowledge that I have the > score sheets and experience to back them up. > > Sincerely, > > Michael J. Doherty > MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, CCNA Certified, CCDA Certified, NREMT-P and many others > that do not have initials. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nrf" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] > > > > Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get > you > > a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do > > you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people > > can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. > > > > While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the > written > > is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in > pretending > > that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are > > allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop > > them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the > classic > > slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted > pseudo-cert, > > then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they > > (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a "CCIE-F" for somebody > > who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE > > program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how > about > > a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom > in > > his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I > hold > > a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all > > from Harvard. > > > > > > > > > > ""Michael J. Doherty"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that > the > > > individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet > > > challenged/passed the Lab. > > > > > > As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on > > > advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview question, > I > > > would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification on my resume > > until > > > I can honestly claim the entire title. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Brian Zeitz" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM > > > Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] > > > > > > > > > > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean? > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36265&t=36243 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
