That's ok, because I'm the President of the United States (F-MLN) (Future-Most Likely Not )
:) Larry -----Original Message----- From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Question [7:36243] Cisco has made it clear that passing the written -CCIE exam does not get you a certificate in itself. Only by passing both the written and the lab do you obtain a cert. I don't know how it came to be acceptable that people can claim a certificate that doesn't exist. While you might say that it's not really a big deal - after all, the written is an exam, so it 'sort-of' is like a cert, so what's the harm in pretending that it's another cert? Well, the real problem is that if people are allowed to make up a "CCIE-Q" cert that doesn't exist, then what's to stop them from making up other qualifications that don't exist? It's the classic slippery slope. For example, if the CCIE-Q becomes an accepted pseudo-cert, then later somebody will inevitably say they have a "CCIE-A", because they (A)ttempted the written (but didn't pass). Or a "CCIE-F" for somebody who's never even seen a router in his life, but has heard about the CCIE program and is thinking about doing it in the (F)uture. Or heck, how about a Bachelor's Degree-(F) for somebody who's never stepped into a classroom in his life, but might do it in the future. I don't know about you, but I hold a Ph.D-(F), an MBA-(F), a Law-degree-(F), and a Medical-degree-(F), all from Harvard. ""Michael J. Doherty"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > It seems to be common these days to use that abbreviation to mean that > the individual has taken, and passed, the Written exam, but not yet > challenged/passed the Lab. > > As for me, personally, when I get to that point, I do not plan on > advertising it in this manner. If it comes up in an interview > question, I would answer it. But, I refuse to put any certification > on my resume until > I can honestly claim the entire title. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Zeitz" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:54 PM > Subject: CCIE Question [7:36243] > > > > I saw a resume with "CCIE (Q)" after their name, what is the Q mean? > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36263&t=36243 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]