Yes, I still have to use the PPPoE password and username. I don't like
it, but does that make it more secure? What does it use for security if
you don't use PPPOE? 

Someone is coming in today from corporate, talking about us connecting
to their VPN connection. I have no idea what system they are talking
about (checkpoint, microsoft?), but it should be interesting over ADSL
as well. I know ADSL does not stay up all the time. Maybe I need some
keepalives to make this work. I never tried VPN over ADSL.

Yea, I actually have 2 ADSL lines, both get dynamic IPs. I use dynu.com
to map my IP to may domain name. works well so far. One line is right
into a cheapy router, which, on the router I give it the PPPOE name and
pass. I use port forwarding on the router, plus a firewall. On the other
ADSL line, I have the Pix hooked up. It is not working yet cause its
only 6.1(2). I am also getting another Pix 515 at another site which ill
have access too. Maybe do some VPN-VPN stuff. I would think 6.2 just ads
the VPDN command. I know the 515 is not considered a SOHO, but maybe
that's why its not listed. I am going to try it, and find out. When I
first started playing with the pix, it had the VPDN command on 6.1(2),
but it only had PPTP and some other stuff, but not PPPoE.

A couple of questions I wanted to throw at you. If I have 1 IP, say I
use PPPOE on the outside interface, and that is my only IP. Say its
172.168.x.x. Then I use on my DMZ card 10.10.1.1, is the Pix doing nat
at that point to the DMZ? Or maybe just forwarding? Is the best case
scenereo for speed to use the same subnet as your router on the DMZ?
Does the pix use Nat from the outside to inside? If I use a router, I
would have to do Nat there, then across the pix, nat again, and on my
load blancers Nat again. (this might slow stuff down) and I mean if it
wasn't on the DMZ.

I was also looking up the difference between having a 4 port DMZ card,
vs a 1 port. I guess the benefits would be. 4-port, faster, you can make
4 subnets. You can lock down each interface, like only allow HTTP.
Better security. Am I missing any?

I was also reading how Nat not configured right on a firewall can change
the Hash algorithms. I think eventually I will switch to a T1.

We bought some load balancers, and I was surprised that they did NAT
too. Coyotote Point (really FreeBSD). I think other "web switches" don't
use nat, so now I am wondering if it was better to get a web switch,
then this FREEBSD device that does nat. (mind you it was assigned to me,
I didn't pick this platform). I went to school for Alteon Web switches a
few years ago, they seemed really good. I don't know who is the best
now.

I am getting up to speed on all this stuff. I am doing the basic pix
firewall course now, and reading the book. I also got the brand new
Advanced Pix firewall course the 2nd version, just released.

Brian Zeitz MCSE, CCNP

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 4:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Configuring Pix with EnterNet DSL [7:43302]

Brian... I'd be interested to hear what your results are... as the
documentation for 6.2 says that it only supports PPPoE/DHCP connections
on
the 501 and 506 models of PIX.  If you get it to work on the 515, that
would
be good to know.

Since you changed GSPs, does that mean that you don't have to worry
about
PPPoE, and you just simply get a Dynamic IP straight off the wire??
Only
reason I ask is, I have SWB DSL, and it's the "Enhanced" service, which
simply means I get 5 static IPs assigned to me.  The technical
difference
for my CPE connecting to them, whether it be a Cisco Router or the PIX,
is
that I don't have to configure the User ID/Password Authentication stuff
anymore.... which was something I had to do with the Basic Service, and
it
was dependent upon PPPoE.

Anyway... let us know how you do!

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brian Zeitz
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Configuring Pix with EnterNet DSL [7:43302]


I am going to try to hook up a Pix to an ADSL line with a dynamic IP,
this should be interesting. In the past I have tried Microsoft ISA
SERver 2000 Enterprise with ADSL, it had a lot of trouble binding the
packet filters cause the IP was dynamic. The fix, install a Netgear
router before the firewall.

Also for PPPoE testing purposes, Windows XP has the PPPoE stuff built in
it. All you need is a XP machine, and a DSL Modem. Use BroadBand
connection when creating an internet connection. Good when the service
provider INSISTs that you have 1 PC hooked up to the DSL modem. Even
though you own a business account. This is the biggest scam in the book,
but I don't pay the bill ;)

Now, I am going to try a Pix 515U, with an ADSL dynamic IP. I am not
sure what the results will be. I could buy another cheapy router, but
just to learn it, and see what results I get, im going to hook it up to
the DSL line. This is just for development. Eventually I will get real
cisco routers.

Also I had verizon change my ADSL Global Service provider. I was having
some routing problems within verizons network. Now I have Qwest, and
everything is cool. So ill try the pix with the new GSP. If anyone wants
to contact me about ADSL or pIx 515 stuff, feel free.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Odette II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Configuring Pix with EnterNet DSL [7:43302]

Ronnie-
I assume you are referring to the fact that your DSL is PPPoE DSL (You
have
to install the EnterNet DSL software on your computer if you want to
access
the DSL Gateway and connect to the internet (which also means you use a
User
Name/Password combination to connect) ....correct!?!

If so, what model PIX do you have?

The 501/506 models support PPPoE under 6.2.1.

The following link should get you started....
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/pix/pix_62/config/
pixc
lnt.htm

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ronnie Higginbotham
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Configuring Pix with EnterNet DSL [7:43302]


I am new to the Pix setup has anybody configured a PIX with EnterNet DSL
setup. Any config help would be appreciated.




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