Heh... it's only available to us IEEE members.... =) Mike
"Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > But they won't let you get IEEE 802.3 for free right now! It's been updated > to the 2002 edition. I can understand them not letting you get that edition > for free for the first six months, but I'm mad that you can't get the 2000 > edition any more either. I think they must be worried that everyone would > go for the free one, and that could be a problem if vendors, especially, > were still implementing to the old version. > > But hopefully this situation will be remedied soon and we will be able to > get the 2002 eidtion for free. > > Regarding the question about learning Manchester encoding, it is quite > simple, and it's also not very relevant to anything "real," but I did cover > it in my Ethernet Troubleshooting paper at: > > http://www.certificationzone.com > > Priscilla > > At 05:51 AM 5/20/02, Steven A. Ridder wrote: > >Here's the address for the 802.x documents from IEEE: > > > >pad > >pad > >pad > > > >http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/ > > > >-- > > > >RFC 1149 Compliant. > >Get in my head: > >http://sar.dynu.com > > > > > >""Brian Hill"" wrote in message > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > > > > > > The IEEE annex that covered full-duplex (802.3x) probably > > > > didn't mention > > > > slot time. That annex was rolled into the 802.3 2000 edition, > > > > however, > > > > which of course does cover slot time since it still covers > > > > CSMA/CD, > > > > repeaters, etc. (in addition to full-duplex operation.) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I was beginning to think I had bad info on slot time as well. It > > > turns out you were saying that all devices that use CSMA/CD (i.e. > > > multiaccess), not all Ethernet devices, use the slot time, which is how I > > > understood it in the first place, I just misunderstood what you were > >saying :( > > > > > > > > > > Well, now we are getting into EE talk. ;-) Everything is analog > > > > at some > > > > level, isn't it? But an Ethernet repeater works on a Manchester > > > > encoded > > > > digital signal. (MLT-3 encoding for 100 Mbps). I think your > > > > second > > > > statement is closest to the truth (that the repeater converts > > > > the analog > > > > signal into a digital representation and creates a new analog > > > > signal). But > > > > I don't know the exact details. > > > > > > Great, that makes perfect sense :) There is that Manchester encoding > >again. > > > Do you know where I can find good documentation on it? > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry I was so punchy in the previous message. > > > > > > > > > > No problem Priscilla :) You guys (and gals) actually cleared up a lot of > >old > > > misconceptions in this whole long list of stuff, which is great > >considering > > > that documents on the dirty inner workings of Ethernet are hard to find > > > unless you happen to be an IEEE member. :P > ________________________ > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44564&t=44408 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]