I have to respectfully disagree,

  Done correctly with caution when necessary the router is an excellant
and often the only troubleshooting tool. If your unpacking a Sniffer
your in deep doo doo as it's quite rare I require it to solve a network
problem.  Don't get me wrong, they are essential and have a purpose but
too often people are going too deep too fast to solve problems that do
not require an analyzer.  

  I used a couple of EIGRP debugs yesterday to help a hospital whose
core 6500 was melting down and for those that do remote support debug is
our friend.

  DebugDave


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> At 07:32 AM 5/24/02, dre wrote:
> >  Cisco router to solve any problem, even those that shouldn't be solved
> >with
> >a router!
> 
> And how about all the people who try to turn the router into a
> troubleshooting tool? You wouldn't believe how many times I've had to
> convince people that the debug commands aren't a replacement for a sniffer.
> Not only are there issues with eating CPU resources to display the debug
> info, but a lot of the commands don't show packets (which they shouldn't).
> Also, regardless of whether they show events or packets, they don't display
> the information in English (in many cases). In fact, many of the debug
> commands were written to help Cisco software and hardware developers do
> some debugging on flaky code/hardware. They weren't written to help a
> network administrator or engineer.
> 
> I know this is a tangent from the real discussion, but I just wanted to
> make that additional point about a Cisco router not being the solution to
> every problem.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> ________________________
> 
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> http://www.priscilla.com
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