Let me just make one point. ""Neal Rauhauser 402-301-9555"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I recently asked who was doing CCIP and got a raft of responses - "Its > just like the CCNP", "Just got get your CCIE", "It doesn't make sense". > > Rather than continuing that thread I thought I'd highlight the > differences and mention why the CCIP is more interesting than CCIE in > many cases. > > > The CCNP covers routing, switching, remote access, and > troubleshooting. When completed, the cert holder is capable of entering > IOS commands without having too many of them spelled out, and can > identify the correct books to read to fill in his/her knowledge gaps. No > disrespect intended - I've got it, its done wonders for my career, but > the biggest effect I've seen is that it has let me accurately articulate > just how much further I have to go. > > The CCIE is full of useless crap from the perspective of a service > provider. DLSw+? I mean, do I care about this? And IPX? And Appletalk? > If you're in a provider environment I *suppose* you could argue it might > be of some use, but I bet I can make just as good an argument for > getting your real estate license as a career booster.
Uh, you do realize, of course, that there are several kinds of CCIE. If you don't like all that enterprise-stuff and you want something that's SP-oriented, why not try the C/S CCIE? > > Now look at the CCIP. Nothing *but* routing as a fundamental > requirement. If you read the other stuff you can see Cisco things this > is for the big boys only - you'll be working 12xxx boxes and you don't > care much about ISDN dial support. > > Where are you going to get good MPLS information? Cisco Press has a > book out, but CCIE != person who read and fully understood that book. I > need to configure it, not just be able to define the acronym. > > And then there is multicast. Conceptually simple, fundamentally evil, > and known to attract wing nuts with business plans based on it. I've got > two wing nuts with their checkbooks cocked and locked right now - if > they can't run a single 384k stream from their site and have it fan out > to N+1 paying remotes I get to keep eating Ramen, instead of moving up > to TV dinners. Sounds like even more reason for you to try the C/S (or perhaps a certain other cert that I'll just refer to by the letter 'J'). > > > There are a lot of other very heavy things in the various CCIP tracks, > I'm just touching on the ones that can be done with gear I can afford > and appeal to my existing customer base. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45902&t=45893 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
