if you dont work with the gear you shouldnt take the test. that's what causes the decline of these certs. people memorize some stuff off cisco's site and pass a test without the first clue of how to work with the gear.
-- ""Mark Odette II"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Case in point: > > How does one truly master Metro Optical if they don't have access to the > equipment used in such a topic?!?! Of course, I haven't read up on the > overview for that exam, but I'm sure I've got a point. > > -Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Will Gragido > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] > > I don't know that its harder more so than its just very different than > what > most people who've not worked within the SP realm are accustomed to. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Mike Bernico > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] > > > The CCIP isn't supposed to be a replacement for CCIE. CCIP is a > professional level exam for service providers that don't need to know > enterprise(read boring) things like bridging and dial and instead > focuses on > service provider technologies. That being said, I've completed two CCIP > electives (MPLS and metro optical) and I'm here to tell you they are way > harder than the CCNP stuff. > > At any rate, if you want a service provider replacement for CCIE R&S it > is > CCIE C&S, not CCIP. > > ------------------- > Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net > (217) 557-6555 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:19 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] > > > > > > CCIP.......Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot > > require a hands > > on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a > > paper cert. > > Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does > > have Multicast on > > it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways > > I will stick to > > first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease > > with time as > > cramsites catch on to the test questions. > > ""Chris Parker"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Neal, > > > > > > I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than > > the CCIE in the > > > service provider sphere. > > > > > > However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability > > and recognition > > > of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced > > the CCIP is to > > > address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. > > However, > > > since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people > > have invested so > > > much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want > > to superceed the > > > CCIE with the CCIP. > > > > > > Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which > > certification is > > more > > > relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated > > more with the > > > Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. > > > > > > Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46170&t=45893 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
