CCIP.......Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot require a hands on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a paper cert. Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does have Multicast on it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways I will stick to first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease with time as cramsites catch on to the test questions. ""Chris Parker"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Neal, > > I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than the CCIE in the > service provider sphere. > > However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability and recognition > of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced the CCIP is to > address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. However, > since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people have invested so > much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want to superceed the > CCIE with the CCIP. > > Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which certification is more > relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated more with the > Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. > > Chris
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