You know its funny. These conversations are about as fruitful as kicking a dead horse. The CCIP is geared more towards the same arena as Junipers certs, Lucent's certs, and certainly some of Nortels certs. The R/S CCIE is an ENTERPRISE, lets say it again kids, ENTERPRISE centric certification. You are endeavoring to make the assertion that apples are the same as oranges when in fact they are not, and really share little in the way of commonalities.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JohnZ Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] CCIP.......Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot require a hands on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a paper cert. Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does have Multicast on it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways I will stick to first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease with time as cramsites catch on to the test questions. ""Chris Parker"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Neal, > > I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than the CCIE in the > service provider sphere. > > However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability and recognition > of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced the CCIP is to > address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. However, > since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people have invested so > much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want to superceed the > CCIE with the CCIP. > > Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which certification is more > relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated more with the > Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. > > Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46054&t=45893 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]