Case in point: How does one truly master Metro Optical if they don't have access to the equipment used in such a topic?!?! Of course, I haven't read up on the overview for that exam, but I'm sure I've got a point.
-Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Will Gragido Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] I don't know that its harder more so than its just very different than what most people who've not worked within the SP realm are accustomed to. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike Bernico Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] The CCIP isn't supposed to be a replacement for CCIE. CCIP is a professional level exam for service providers that don't need to know enterprise(read boring) things like bridging and dial and instead focuses on service provider technologies. That being said, I've completed two CCIP electives (MPLS and metro optical) and I'm here to tell you they are way harder than the CCNP stuff. At any rate, if you want a service provider replacement for CCIE R&S it is CCIE C&S, not CCIP. ------------------- Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED] Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net (217) 557-6555 > -----Original Message----- > From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCIP vs CCNP vs CCIE - not very close at all [7:45893] > > > CCIP.......Sure it smells like a new car. But if it doesnot > require a hands > on lab then it is just a few months away from turning into a > paper cert. > Perhaps you haven't looked at CCIE R/S closely but it does > have Multicast on > it and you can be sure you will be tested on it. But anyways > I will stick to > first comment without a vigrous lab it's worth will decrease > with time as > cramsites catch on to the test questions. > ""Chris Parker"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Neal, > > > > I agree with you 100% the the CCIP is more relevent than > the CCIE in the > > service provider sphere. > > > > However I think the CCIP has yet to attain the credability > and recognition > > of the CCIE. I think the reason Cisco probably introduced > the CCIP is to > > address the shortcomings of the CCIE in the service provider area. > However, > > since the CCIE is so coveted and since some many people > have invested so > > much in their CCIE's , i think Cisco probably didn't want > to superceed the > > CCIE with the CCIP. > > > > Utimately, it will be up to the market to decide which > certification is > more > > relevent in the future. Perhaps CCIE will become associated > more with the > > Enterpise arena and CCIP with the serivce provider arena. > > > > Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=46095&t=45893 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
