At 4:19 AM +0000 1/3/03, nrf wrote: > > *sigh* one of the classic complaints of interns is how they were told >> "don't worry about the details--learn the concepts." Now, facing a >> cardiac arrest, how many milliliters of what concept do they need to >> inject? > >Yet at the same time we have the opposite phenomena - guys who can configure >routers in a Sunday minute, but can't even spell RFC. What I'm talking >about is guys who might know what all the commands are, but have no >grounding in routing protocol theory or any such higher concepts. All they >know is - they see this problem, they type in this command. Such guys are >useful if you need to troubleshoot your network at 3 in the morning, not so >useful if you want to do something that isn't in a textbook. And besides, I >hate to say it, but these guys are destined to be replaced by a good OSS.
As we get better at self-repairing and expert systems. It was no accident I put the Byzantine Corruption problem in my question list. > >> >> >The purpose of the >> >> college >> >> > degree is to provide you with a a reservoir of general knowledge >upon >> >> which >> >> > you can draw, as well as practice in life-skills such as >> >problem-solving, >> > > > critical thinking, and time-management. >> >> To say nothing of coping with hangovers. > >I think you relate more of the truth than you think. The fact is, business >is greased with alcohol, especially on the sales side of things. One of the >biggest pre-reqs of being a good salesman is how to drink. And let's face >it - good salesmen make more money in a month than we make in a year. Ah, but there are counterstrategies. When I need to be out with martini-guzzling salesdroids, I order a cognac or single malt, so I have an excuse to sip and savor as they get blasted. I've done a fair bit of presales support. At one point, the sales VP of my company said "why don't you come over to sales? You'd be great at it!" "Jerry," I said, "don't you think that if I wanted to be in sales, I'd already be there? Just because I do something well as part of the Salary Continuation Program doesn't mean I like it." > >> > >> > > Freud was a seminal thinker, but in > > detail, even his immediate disciples, Jung, Adler, Fromm-Reichmann, >> etc., think more clearly. There have been entire new disciplines >> since Freud, such as most of cognitive theory. Neurobiology is >> transforming the discipline. > >The point is not to say that Freud was right all the time, just like >Aristotle wasn't right all the time. But that doesn't mean that their ideas >are unworthy of study. Depends, I suppose, on your specific goals. If you are a historian of psychology or political economy, Freud and Marx are essential to know in detail. If you are going to practice nonpharmacologic psychotherapy, then Sullivan, Maslow, Adler, the current leaders in rational emotive and cognitive therapy, etc., are more important. If you take a more biologic approach--well, I have Freud's Interpretation of Dreams and other works on the shelf, but what I reach for most of the time is the Biochemical Basis of Neuropharmacology. To deal with some educational psych for Cisco course development, I need Bloom's Taxonomy. There's a question of time allocation, and it's not always best served by approaching things in chronological order. Eckert and Mauchly were among the first people actually to build a computer, but knowing von Neumann principles is more important. > >Yet I doubt that John Chambers ever read an RFC before in his life. But >let's face it. Let's be totally and completely honest. I know this might >come across as a low-blow, but at the end of the day, who really has more >influence on the direction of the networking industry - the best CCIE in the >world, or Mr. Chambers? Let's not forget a third path. Vint Cerf (PhD and Worldcom senior VP). Scott Bradner. Fred Baker. Sandy Lerner and Len Bosack as innovators rather than corporate managers. Bill Carrico. Deborah Estrin. Other innovators that start major technologies. For that matter, consider Ira Magaziner, Esther Dyson, Newton Minow, Charlie Brown (AT&T, not Peanuts), etc. Brown is interesting in that he worked his way up to AT&T CEO from a starting job as a cable splicer. In today's communications world, I would have said that could never happen again, given CEOs tend to come from finance or sales --- but I look now at Enron, Worldcom, etc., and wonder. > > >Yet in the eyes of a company, how are you supposed to know that a candidate >is a slacker? Every candidate is going to claim to be the greatest worker >in the world, but how do you know that they're telling the truth - >particularly when they have no work record to judge them by? Exactly. Different rules apply to new and established job seekers. I haven't gone through a conventional job-seeking process in years -- either I was recruited or I helped create a position. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60190&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
