>> >Yet I doubt that John Chambers ever read an RFC before in his life. But > >let's face it. Let's be totally and completely honest. I know this might > >come across as a low-blow, but at the end of the day, who really has more > >influence on the direction of the networking industry - the best CCIE in the > >world, or Mr. Chambers? > > Let's not forget a third path. Vint Cerf (PhD and Worldcom senior > VP). Scott Bradner. Fred Baker. Sandy Lerner and Len Bosack as > innovators rather than corporate managers. Bill Carrico. Deborah > Estrin. Other innovators that start major technologies.
Aha - you just said it right there. It's DOCTOR Vint Cerf. It's not CCIE Vint Cerf, but Doctor Vint Cerf. The point is that not a person above has a CCIE to their name. > > For that matter, consider Ira Magaziner, Esther Dyson, Newton Minow, > Charlie Brown (AT&T, not Peanuts), etc. Brown is interesting in that > he worked his way up to AT&T CEO from a starting job as a cable > splicer. In today's communications world, I would have said that > could never happen again, given CEOs tend to come from finance or > sales --- but I look now at Enron, Worldcom, etc., and wonder. Yet again - how many CCIE's in that mix? I would venture to say about zero. See, that's my point. If you just want to be a box-slinger, by all means get the CCIE. If you actually want to change the industry, it's far less powerful. That's my point. > > > > > >Yet in the eyes of a company, how are you supposed to know that a candidate > >is a slacker? Every candidate is going to claim to be the greatest worker > >in the world, but how do you know that they're telling the truth - > >particularly when they have no work record to judge them by? > > Exactly. Different rules apply to new and established job seekers. I > haven't gone through a conventional job-seeking process in years -- > either I was recruited or I helped create a position. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=60196&t=59481 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
