i agree with the comment there that your article is a nice, gentle introduction that makes me go, "cool, now pick another clojure topic. I'm ready to read it" -- maybe concureny?
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:28 AM, e <evier...@gmail.com> wrote: > just started reading it and already have some new perspectives. Like, I > didn't really know that "let" variables could depend on each other. I would > have expected that to be let*, but I just looked in the API, and I don't see > a let*, which seems odd to me. What's that all about? > > Secondly, also about "let", I remember the thing about C that people > critiqued was that you had to define all your variables before you started > using them ... only one step improved over languages that had to put them in > a special section above their use (sort of sounds like "let"?). And then > along came C++ and java, and folks like me looked like idiots for being > old-school and defining stuff at the top of functions instead of delaying > until just when you need them. I eventually bought into that idea: it makes > it easy to see whats going on, it makes the names of variables less > important, and it delays allocation until everything prior is known to be > set up right. In C++ it's considered a best practice, and I wonder if that > community would argue that this is a step in the opposite direction. So I > also wonder if that's why "let" works like it does (like let*)? so that you > still think about the order things should be set up? > > I can see one argument right now for this c-like approach ... but I'm not > sure I buy it -- that in lisp (etc.) the functions typically so short (or > should be) that the C++ argument doesn't come into play. Maybe better, I > could see one arguing that you are still supposed to parlay initialization > with ever-nested "lets" ... but C doesn't allow nested functions so it's not > a valid comparison. And when all else doesn't seem right you can still use > java variables a la refs any time you really want. Am I on the right track? > > Ok, back to reading. Thanks for writing it. > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Keith Bennett > <keithrbenn...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> All - >> >> I am a relative newcomer to Clojure, but have been really enjoying >> learning and using it. >> >> I've published an article on my blog at http://snipurl.com/dyxz7. >> It's about some of my impressions of Clojure based on my studies and >> porting of a Swing app to Clojure (a previous article discussed a >> JRuby port of it). It's kind of intended for newcomers to Clojure from >> the more conventional languages. >> >> If any of you could check it for accuracy I would appreciate it. Of >> course, feel free to comment on it too. >> >> Thanks, >> Keith Bennett >> >> >> >> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
