He's illiterate about Java, he's older than me and has less experience so finding how to run a jar file is probably as remote as traveling to Alpha Centauri :))) (Don't we have something like Google to find these answers ?)
Most of his recent experience seems to be in Visual Basic and mainstream web centric languages. I suspect he's more a by-product of using too few commercial language centric IDEs. If it does not work out of the box without a 1-800 number to call, he's lost. Let's not spend more time about this guy's comments. I think we can assume a Java programmer knows about class path issues and is able to run java and add librairies to the class path. As for non Java programmers yes it can be a bit daunting but I bet you can't do much in C# or F# if you do not have the slightest idea on how to use VisualStudio :)))) You are far away from a three steps installation process here. Agree, many people may already be familiar with VisualStudio, it's been around for along time. But do you like it ? :))) Getting started with Clojure is rather simple from the command line, mastering a foreign IDE is a different story. If you are not familiar with Eclipse, IntelliJ or Emacs and you want to use something more flexible than command line mode then you have a learning curve investment to do. The alternatives are documented from the "Getting started" page of the Clojure web site and it's pretty clear to follow. The best "choice" may not be clear upfront (we all have our tastes) but there is some solid ground to help people decide on an alternative. Yes we could have a complete package to run Clojure from the shell command line but how far could someone go with this to build a workable system without an IDE ? It might have some sex appeal to help learn the language but how different is it from the three steps described by Marek ? Do we really need to release a Clojure SDK with an IDE etc ? What other language does that ? Ruby ? Scala ? Groovy ? >From time to time we have comments about how difficult/easy it is to get acquainted with Clojure but I wonder if we all understand the same things about this issue. Do we need to gather requirements somehow ? (!?!?!) Comments anyone ? Luc P. On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 22:08 +0100, Marek Kubica wrote: > On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:42:12 -0800 > Tim Johnson <t...@johnsons-web.com> wrote: > > > Here's how I installed the flash player on my system. > > 1)Downloaded install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz > > 2)Unzipped libflashplayer.so > > 3)Copied to /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.2/plugins/ > > Here's how I installed the Clojure REPL on my system. > 1) Downloaded clojure-1.1.0.zip > 2) Unzipped clojure.jar > 3) Ran java -jar clojure.jar > > Hardly any different. > > FWIW, posting on a list and declaring immediately that one will > unsubscribe afterwards, not even reading replies is near-flamebait > quality. > > regards, > Marek > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
