Mike, While evaluating Clojure, just remember, you don't have use it for everything. When you need something simple, as in your examples, then use cgi. When you need to do something more complex then Clojure can help.
You cannot deploy a .clj script on a running Tomcat (yet). When you install Tomcat, you have a ROOT context into which you can place .html and .jsp files and they will be dynamically loaded. This gives you about the same functionality as you would get from php and apache. Even though Clojure doesn't already have what you are looking for it would not be difficult to make it work. For example, you could create a generic web app that would have an embedded REPL as well as the ability to dynamically load code from external files. You would then just need to install Tomcat (which is easy) and drop this war into it. Form then on out you would just create simple .clj scripts and drop them into a directory. You could also connect to the REPL and dynamically add and remove code from the application. This hasn't been done yet because I don't think many people would find it useful. Clojure is new so when you see something missing, build it. That is why all of this other stuff is so simple, someone built it. Brenton On Sep 9, 10:40 am, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups. 620...@mired.org> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) > > Brenton <bashw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mike, > > > Your point has been made, simple things are simple. When you need to > > print "hello world" you don't need to bring Clojure into the picture. > > You could have given a much simpler example of needing to print "hello > > world" on the command line. echo "hello world" is much simpler than > > what you would need to do in Clojure. > > The thing is, I'm evaluating clojure - that's what drags clojure into > it. If I wasn't interested in using clojure, I'd never have asked the > question. Printing "hello world" is just a simple, well-understood > example application. There are *lots* of applications worth putting on > the web that aren't much more complicated than that. I chose it to > emphasis how much extra work the environment that clojure seems to be > inextricably linked with adds. > > > When faced with any problem to solve, you have to look at the tools > > you have available and then determine what the simplest solution will > > be. In your case, all of the software you need is already installed, > > configured and running. So it's simple. If you gave me a system with > > Tomcat installed, configured and running then I could do the exact > > same thing. It has nothing to do with Java, it has to do with what you > > are given to work with. > > I thought I *gave* you all those things to work with when I said "not > counting the web server and whatever else it needs to be ready to run > applications." Could you show me (or point me to an web page showing) > how I'd go from a simple .clj script to an application running on > Tomcat that's been installed and is ready to run applications? If > that's as simple as the apache/cgi example, I'll be very happy. > > <mike > -- > Mike Meyer <m...@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/consulting.html > Independent Network/Unix/Perforce consultant, email for more information. > > O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail -www.asciiribbon.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
