On Aug 8, 2013, at 8:15 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> >> I'm happy to drop this after this message too. I just couldn't let such an >> unnecessarily insulting email stand without a response > > I think he was trying to support you actually. He's saying "it doesn't > work for you, which means it's the wrong tool!"
I was referring to Norman Richard's comment, which is what set me off: "Structural editing, like paredit, is really the only sane way to do Clojure code. I honestly thing anyone who manually balances parenthesis or edits Clojure functions in a way that doesn't preserve the structural integrity of your expressions is just doing it wrong. (not just doing it poorly - but doing it wrong)". >> And one other part of my dislike comes from my work teaching new programmers, >> who have enough to learn and overcome without having to rethink the concept >> of >> editing before turning (a b (c d)) into (a (b c d)), which they could do >> effortlessly in a normal editor. > > I can see this as a problem, although, there again new programmers are > likely to have problems getting parens balanced. I've never taught lisp > to new programmers, but given the difficult those I have taught Java > have with brace/paren matching, I guess it's a problem. Agreed. But good brace/paren *matching* (highlighting the mate and/or unmatched brackets) solves this problem without all the downsides (IMHO) of paredit. -Lee -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.