I am set up for dip-pole. I believe that the end-for-end gybe is possibly
easier and faster, but I am not sure I would want to be up at the pointy end
when my heavy aluminum pole is flying around just supported in the middle!

Jonathan
Indigo - 35MK III - Southport CT

-----Original Message-----
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys

Keith,

Is an end for end gybe easier/faster/safer than a dip pole on a 35?

Joel
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On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:48 PM, "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR"
<keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote:

> I assume you are talking about how we jibe after detaching the lazy
> guy...
>
> We are likely to take off the lazy guy only on long-ish legs with few if
> any jibes. (think point to point races)
> But, if we need to jibe, we hook it back up.
> Since we only drop the lazy guy on really light winds, it's no big deal.
>
> If we are likely to be jibing back and forth a lot, we don't take it
> off.
>
>
> -Keith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Hall [mailto:wh...@alum.mit.edu]
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:48
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys
>
> How do you jibe this setup? Do you have to attach a guy during the
> jibe?  That sounds tricky!
>
> My boat is new to me and came with an asymmetric chute that doesn't
> measure well for PHRF - it's pretty small, yet I'm penalized for it on
> the rating.  Any former racers out there have a functional symmetric
> chute that they'd like to part with?  How about a pole?  Ideally, luff
> length would be 50', foot / mid-girth would be 27'9" and pole would be
> 15'5"
>
> Bill Hall
> 1985 C&C 37 Starfire
> Stamford, CT
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR
> <keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote:
>> On Beyond the Sea, we've had a few different setups.
>>
>> Originally we had 3/8" stayset for the sheets and an older,
>> sorta-low-stretch 1/2" line for guys.
>>
>> I've never really had issues with the sheets, but the guys were too
>> stretchy and in any sort of reaching condition they'd let the pole
> bang
>> the forestay.
>>
>> This year we upgraded all of it.
>>
>> I used 3/8" ultra-tech for guys. With ronstan snap shackles and donuts
>> to protect pole jaw
>>
>> For spin sheets, I spliced 1/4" spectra to some 3/8" Samson "LS" line,
>> with the spectra exposed.  Effectively a stripped line, but without
>> paying "spectra-prices" for the part that is laying on the cockpit
> floor
>> under no load.  I think I went with 20' stripped, but I'd make it less
>> if I had to do again. Maybe 15' next time.
>>
>> For shackles, I seem to do the opposite of everyone.
>>
>> I go for large bales for the spin sheets and small bales for the guys.
>> My reasoning is this: the rings for the clews are sorta small, and
>> there's not room for both shackles to attach, so I attach the sheet to
>> the clew, and the guy to the sheet's shackle.  Hence the need for a
>> large bale for the sheet.
>>
>> This allows us to take the guys off for light air nights without
>> struggling with getting it out of the small-ish ring on the clew.
>>
>> I probably could stop using sheets and guys, and instead just go
> SHEETS
>> with twings...but I have the crew all trained on sheets and guys, no
>> need to solve a problem that isn't there. And yes, we end-for-end with
>> this setup.
>>
>> -Keith M
>> C&C 35-3
>> "Beyond the Sea"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Indigo [mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us]
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:24
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys
>>
>> I am thinking of getting new spinnaker sheets made up this winter for
>> Indigo.  I will probably go with standard snap-shackles as the Tylaska
>> shackles are a luxury I do not really need.  I was wondering what line
>> is recommended by other 35MKIII listers, and whether it makes sense to
>> remove the cover (and how much).   I will be sticking with my older
> guys
>> for at least another year or so.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> Indigo
>>
>> 35MIII - Southport CT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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