>From my experience crew makes a difference but the helmsman is more responsible for an easy jibe...holding the boat DDW and maybe even free flying a bit makes things easier on everyone and not much is lost in VMG, at least not as much as would be lost by screwing up the jibe
Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo Sent: September 17, 2012 6:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys I define the "pointy end" as anything between the mast and the pulpit! I am sure with a consistent crew where everyone knows what they are doing, an end for end can be safe, as well as easy and fast - but in my case, I have to sail with pick-up crew - some of whom don't know the topping lift from the down-haul Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 5:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys Who does an end for end from the pointy end? I set my 35 MKII up for end for end jibes but the old spin pole is quite a good size piece of aluminium but the jibe is doable if the topping lift is set right and if the helmsman steers DDW until the pole is set for the new jibe...that said the spinnakers are hardly ever carried on my boat anymore...too much like work using them for my sailing plan nowadays Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Indigo Sent: September 17, 2012 5:49 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys I am set up for dip-pole. I believe that the end-for-end gybe is possibly easier and faster, but I am not sure I would want to be up at the pointy end when my heavy aluminum pole is flying around just supported in the middle! Jonathan Indigo - 35MK III - Southport CT -----Original Message----- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys Keith, Is an end for end gybe easier/faster/safer than a dip pole on a 35? Joel Sent from my iPad On Sep 17, 2012, at 12:48 PM, "Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR" <keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: > I assume you are talking about how we jibe after detaching the lazy > guy... > > We are likely to take off the lazy guy only on long-ish legs with few if > any jibes. (think point to point races) > But, if we need to jibe, we hook it back up. > Since we only drop the lazy guy on really light winds, it's no big deal. > > If we are likely to be jibing back and forth a lot, we don't take it > off. > > > -Keith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Hall [mailto:wh...@alum.mit.edu] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:48 > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List WTB and Re: C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys > > How do you jibe this setup? Do you have to attach a guy during the > jibe? That sounds tricky! > > My boat is new to me and came with an asymmetric chute that doesn't > measure well for PHRF - it's pretty small, yet I'm penalized for it on > the rating. Any former racers out there have a functional symmetric > chute that they'd like to part with? How about a pole? Ideally, luff > length would be 50', foot / mid-girth would be 27'9" and pole would be > 15'5" > > Bill Hall > 1985 C&C 37 Starfire > Stamford, CT > > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR > <keith.morgenst...@navy.mil> wrote: >> On Beyond the Sea, we've had a few different setups. >> >> Originally we had 3/8" stayset for the sheets and an older, >> sorta-low-stretch 1/2" line for guys. >> >> I've never really had issues with the sheets, but the guys were too >> stretchy and in any sort of reaching condition they'd let the pole > bang >> the forestay. >> >> This year we upgraded all of it. >> >> I used 3/8" ultra-tech for guys. With ronstan snap shackles and donuts >> to protect pole jaw >> >> For spin sheets, I spliced 1/4" spectra to some 3/8" Samson "LS" line, >> with the spectra exposed. Effectively a stripped line, but without >> paying "spectra-prices" for the part that is laying on the cockpit > floor >> under no load. I think I went with 20' stripped, but I'd make it less >> if I had to do again. Maybe 15' next time. >> >> For shackles, I seem to do the opposite of everyone. >> >> I go for large bales for the spin sheets and small bales for the guys. >> My reasoning is this: the rings for the clews are sorta small, and >> there's not room for both shackles to attach, so I attach the sheet to >> the clew, and the guy to the sheet's shackle. Hence the need for a >> large bale for the sheet. >> >> This allows us to take the guys off for light air nights without >> struggling with getting it out of the small-ish ring on the clew. >> >> I probably could stop using sheets and guys, and instead just go > SHEETS >> with twings...but I have the crew all trained on sheets and guys, no >> need to solve a problem that isn't there. And yes, we end-for-end with >> this setup. >> >> -Keith M >> C&C 35-3 >> "Beyond the Sea" >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Indigo [mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us] >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:24 >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List C&C 35Mk III Spinnaker Sheets / Guys >> >> I am thinking of getting new spinnaker sheets made up this winter for >> Indigo. I will probably go with standard snap-shackles as the Tylaska >> shackles are a luxury I do not really need. I was wondering what line >> is recommended by other 35MKIII listers, and whether it makes sense to >> remove the cover (and how much). I will be sticking with my older > guys >> for at least another year or so. >> >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> Indigo >> >> 35MIII - Southport CT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > -- > William D. 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