Brad,

I have used both Seaview West (at the south end of Shilshole) and CSR multiple 
times and have been satisfied with the service and quality of work.  I had 
Calypso delivered to CSR's South Lake Union yard when it was trucked out from 
Chicago.  She spent 3 months there as we took care of significant deferred 
maintenance.  Tim and his CSR crew did fine work and were very accommodating.  
The last 10+ years Calypso has been hauled at Seaview as I can see the travel 
lift from Calypso's slip making it easy to walk back to the truck after hauling 
the boat.

My father-in-law hauls his classic wood power boat at the Canal Boatyard and 
speaks highly of it.  From a casual observer's (= non bill paying) point of 
view the Canal Boatyard seemed fine, was set up for DIY, and would be a viable 
alternative but may have less on-site services.  It is a short walk from Hale's 
brew pub and the big Ballard Fred Meyer store.  There are a lot of commercial 
maritime vendors close by as much of the fishing fleet is moored in that area.

With either boat yard it is important to have the work orders written and 
agreed to.  Expect some cost inflation from various environmental and supply 
adders but both yards should have similar costs to meet the WA State clean 
water regulations.  Hourly labor rates should be similar, the key being how 
many hours will be charged to the job.  Both yards have a well-stocked store 
but the pricing is a bit steep compared to Fisheries Supply.  Seaview's yard is 
a short walk from the Shilshole West Marine location.

On the quality of work side, you will want to talk with the yard's specialist 
or independent contractor that will be pulling the shaft.  In 2013 I had 
Calypso at Seaview to pull the rudder and shaft.  My standard is the person 
performing the work needed to know more and have better tools than me.  I have 
been working on boats at Seaview since 1977 so they expected and planned for 
some owner involvement.  We negotiated on whether their people or the owner(s) 
were doing our own work.  The key was to be clear on timing of the work's 
completion and how that fit in with lay days included in the yard's estimate.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Martin,

What would be your suggestion, CSR,  Canal, or Seaview for those repairs?

Thanks,

Brad Crawford
CnC 36
Seattle




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Brad,

If you are planning on a typical PNW San Juan's and further north summer cruise 
you will be putting many hours on your auxiliary engine. (Summer in the San 
Juan's turns sailboats into slow power boats.)  Performing the full 
shaft/coupling repair now would be a good idea.

If you plan on a short motor out of the marina and then shutting down the 
mechanical propulsion you may be able to fit a larger woodruff key, larger set 
screws/bolts, and follow the other advice regarding placing a zinc forward of 
the shaft log in case the low budget repair fails.  If the coupling remains 
loose on the shaft expect additional vibration and wear on both the shaft and 
coupling plus a clunk when shifting between forward and reverse.

If you do go the "full monte" and pull the shaft, take a close look at your 
cutlass bearing as it would be easy to replace at the same time.

Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Subject: Stus-List Propeller Shaft Coupling question

I recently had my transmission out for a rebuild and upon putting it back in 
and the boat back together discovered that the propeller shaft coupling is a 
little loose on the shaft, maybe 1/8" of rotational movement on the shaft, like 
possibly the keyway is worn?.  Have tried tightening the set screws, which 
secures the coupling but eventually they work loose and again there is movement 
of the coupling on the shaft.  It's been recommended that I have the boat 
hauled,  the coupling removed,  the shaft pulled out and provided the shaft is 
ok, a new coupling fitted and faced to the shaft, and then reinstalled for a 
final alignment.

My question to the group is has anyone else been running around with a loose 
coupling and is this something I should be immediately concerned about?

Thanks,

Brad Crawford
CnC 36
Seattle

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