Don Street of Iolare fame had a story about someone who got tired of water in the fuel and ran the vent hose 8 feet up the mizzen mast LOL. Joe
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 2:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel vents The best of vents will have the high point of the loop on centreline. Not practically achievable on many boats and the extra hose cost and perhaps tortuously labour to install is not tolerated by most... but it is "Cadillac". You will probably be sinking by the time water enters the fuel tank... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 11:19 AM 30/10/2015, you wrote: Russ, Until this thread, I never gave it a second thought. I don't know if there is a loop in mine or not, but I'll find out! The fuel fill hose and vent hose are still original as far as I can tell. I hope the guys up north were generous with the use of vent hose in 1983. Probably time to change both hoses anyhow- they are the last of the original. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Joel, all vents should be looped as high as practical. That is just common sense and anything is sloppy workmanship. Joe, my fuel fill is on the outboard sloped portion of the combing so spillage ends up in the same area as the vent opening, easy to catch with paper towel in place before filling. The vent loop makes the fill & vent heights practically the same. Since these are original installation locations, if I was offered compliance grief from any surveyor, insurer or regulatory type I would send them back to review the "code of construction" for 1972. If you're happy with your installation then send 'em packing.         Cheers, Russ         Sweet 35 mk-1 At 06:32 AM 30/10/2015, you wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative;         boundary="_000_370b7b2b46f84cdcbc23bbe624d15399NSCDAG306baadssagov_" Apples and oranges. The fill - where you add fuel - on the 35 MK I is on top of of of the coaming. If you are a sloppy refueler some ends up on deck and some in the cockpit. This does not meet 2015 ABYC specs, although in all the decades I have been fueling my boat this has not proved a significant issue. The vent on the 35 MK I is on the side of the coaming, so overflow does not end up in the cockpit. It also is significantly harder to submerge than it would be on the side of the hull. Agree about a loop - no reason I can seee not to do that.  Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I  From: CnC-List [ <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 9:26 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel vents  Would it make sense to put a loop in the hose that runs up under the coaming if you are using the original vent so that water would have to get to the top of the loop before entering the tank?  On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:09 AM, ed vanderkruk via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: ABYC and USCG requirements say that fuel exiting the fuel fill at 5 gpm for 5 seconds cannot enter the cockpit while in its static floating position. So it depends on the slope of the coaming. If it doesn't slope outwards most likely some would spill into to cockpit. There are requirements for separation of fuel vent and other hull openings of 15 inches but that it likely not difficult to comply with. Ed On Oct 29, 2015 3:57 PM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I suspect many of boats experiencing water ingress through the fuel vent have a similar configuration. That is, the fill fitting in the deck and the fuel vent in the hull side just under the toe/rub rail. My 35-1 is different. The fuel fill is not in the deck. The fuel fill fitting is well aft in the top of the port side cockpit coaming. The fuel vent is also well aft exiting the side of the cockpit coaming a few inches above the deck. For water to get into the fuel vent the deck of the boat at the stern would have to be awash 2-4 inches deep. I have never ever seen water higher than a couple feet below the taffrail atop the transom. If water was anywhere close to entering the fuel vent I think I would be concerned about a lot more than water in the fuel. :) Would it be smart? Possible? ABYC compliant? to move a deck mounted fuel fill up to the top of the cockpit coaming and move the vent to the side of the coaming like my 35-1 and reduce the potential for water ingress?  Dennis C. 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