Josh, Call the vessel doc center and ask for an abstract of title. It will show every owner, lien, legal action for the life of the documentation.
When I bought Touché, it had a $62,400 lien on it that the PO had paid but had not cleared with VDC. That was a bit of a pain to straighten out. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Rick, > > Paper trail? Was your boat documented prior to your ownership or was the > paper trail something that maybe came from the documentation company as part > of the abstracts? > > I didn't get a paper trail when I bought. I was the first person to document > the boat. Fortunately the boat only had 2 POs and the last PO owned it for > 10 years so a pretty decent history was available. > > Having been USCG inspected for UPV I'm almost positive that documentation is > required. I'd certainly like to understand any details to the contrary. > > Josh > >> On Jan 13, 2016 10:38 PM, "Rick Brass via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> Josh has a good point. In some/most states you can get a title for your >> boat, but documentation is like a national title with a lien that can’t be >> ignored. So most lenders prefer that you register the mortgage with the USCG >> and get the documentation. Even the local credit union where I took out a >> piddly $30k loan to buy Imzadi in 2003 wanted the boat to have a mortgage >> registered with the USCG. >> >> >> >> I documented the boat primarily to enable cruising outside the US. >> Documentation is actually a legal requirement, though it is often ignored. >> >> >> >> I sometimes use the boat as an uninspected passenger vessel with paying >> guests and, while documentation is not an actual requirement, I understand >> the USCG boardings go a lot smoother if you are documented. >> >> >> >> North Carolina started requiring registration of documented vessels in 2014, >> and now we must put a sticker on both sides of the bow to show state >> registration. But for the first 11 years I didn’t need those ugly numbers on >> the hull and I saved the $25 a year on state registration costs. >> >> >> >> I also like the paper trail that goes along with documentation. I know >> Imzadi’s former names and who the former owners were all the way back to >> April 1976 when she was first documented. >> >> >> >> Rick Brass >> >> Washington, NC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh >> Muckley via CnC-List >> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 8:47 PM >> To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Vessel Documentation >> >> >> >> Patrick, >> >> When I bought my boat the lending company required me to use a documentation >> company for the title abstracts. Between the two I ended up being >> documented. When I decided to do day trips as a UPV I needed documentation >> anyway. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> On Jan 13, 2016 7:53 PM, "Patrick Davin via CnC-List" >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I'm surprised so many people on here are USCG documented. I thought USCG >> documentation (as opposed to merely state registration) is mostly only >> beneficial to those traveling internationally. (and not everyone commenting >> travels internationally). >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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