What you describe sounds like a PYI shaft retention collar. I think it is a 
great addition to the PYI dripless, because it can grab the shaft quite well 
(as opposed to the retention screws that are supposed to tap into the shaft 
through the original collar). I know of people who use an extra hose clamp for 
the same purpose. Not as good but saves you about $30. I have the retention 
collar.

Marek

From: CnC-List On Behalf Of WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List
Sent: 11 December, 2019 19:32
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Cc: WILLIAM WALKER <wwadjo...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mechanical shaft seal options


Josh,
   I don't have my PSS manual here in Ohio, but basically it is a two part ring 
that clamps around the shaft and carries two o rings inside.
It also acts to prevent shaft from going out the back of the boat if the shaft 
coupler let's go.
I have never actually used the replacement o rings, but did re install it 
several years ago when replaced my shaft and coupler.
Bill

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Bill,

I'm curious how that works having a spare seal?

As far as I can tell, the primary failure mechanism for the PYI is the bellows. 
 It's hard to keep a spare of one of those.

The Lasdrop Gen 2 has a semi rigid hose instead of a bellows and terminates 
with a SS plate which stays stationary.  The carbon ring is mounted to the 
shaft in a manner which does not damage the shaft.  This leaves the carbon ring 
as the rotating piece.  In the gen 2 the rotating part attached to the shaft is 
also a spring pack which is how compression is maintained.  Since it is a 
spring it is also less prone to relaxing over time such as a typical bellows 
system.

Josh



On Wed, Dec 11, 2019, 2:21 PM WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Josh,
   The PYI seal also is capable of storing a spare seal on the shaft in front 
of the seal.  I have one.
Bill Walker
C & C 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Michigan

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On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Yep vented.

The PYI and Lasdrop seals rated the highest in a practical sailor review.  The 
lasdrop gen 2 has the ability to store a spare seal on the shaft and the rated 
service life is 8 to 10 years.

I'm leaning towards the Lasdrop Gen 2 for my installation though I'm tempted to 
keep the PYI.  The new bellows kit is 1/3 of the price of the new lasdrop seal.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/26_22/features/4431-1.html

I'm also considering a new auto prop instead of paying to get my max-prop 
rebuilt.

Josh

On Wed, Dec 11, 2019, 10:56 AM Ken Heaton 
<kenhea...@gmail.com<mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is yours vented?  The vent was added some years ago. With it you never need to 
burp the seal.  We don't have the vent so occasionally we do have to burp it.  
If I ever replace it I will put the same dripless, but with the vent.

Ken H.

On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 13:48, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Alright folks,

I'm looking for thoughts on a replacement for my PYI dripless shaft seal.  It 
has worked fine and I'm not afraid to stick with it but I'm looking for 
possible options or improvements.

I've heard of Tides Marine making one and Sailor Sam's sells 4 different 
designs by the name Last Drop.

I'll be pulling and truing the shaft, rebuilding the prop, replacing the 
cutlass bearing, replacing the seal.  Anything else I'm forgetting while I have 
it apart?


Thanks,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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