> On Sep 10, 2021, at 8:07 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> The C&C 33-2 is very fast on a beat. It has PHRF 132 and the older 35-2 has 
> PHRF 120. On a beat it’s hard for the 35-2 to stay with the slower rated 
> 33-2. However from close reach to run the 35-2  excels. It is difficult for a 
> faster rated C&C 37 (PHRF 105) to stay with the slower rated C&C 35-2 on 
> those points of sail. I like sailing off the wind on a close reach, who 
> doesn’t?  That with the well know strong construction of the older 35’s was 
> one reason I got my 35-2 instead of a newer 33-2. 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 6:17 PM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Lol-  never race either but if I did I’d probably notice that the 33-2 is 
>> faster than most others I encounter on the water, especially in light air, 
>> should I be noticing such things.     
>> I did get schooled last weekend by a good friend (an accomplished racer)  in 
>> a C&C 32 with tired sails.  (My 33-2 is faster, hands down, I’m not.) I Had 
>> to work very hard and find another gear to slowly catch up.   This in 
>> support of dwight’s point - the driver may matter more than the car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Dwight, that doesn’t apply to me. I’m not like that. Besides my boat is so 
>>> fast it’s never much of a contest. 😀
>> 
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> Andrew Burton
>>> 26 Beacon Hill
>>> Newport, RI 
>>> USA 02840
>>> 
>>> +401 965 5260
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 9, 2021, at 16:03, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> For some of us a race starts every time another sail is in sight. I am a 
>>>> little bit of that vintage lately having become more selective based on 
>>>> potential boat speed or phrases numbers. The landfalls are great C&C’s. I 
>>>> had a landfall 35 close by me in the yard. Nice and the 38 too. I like the 
>>>> ways my 35MKII flies on that tack. Waterline length is important but sail 
>>>> trim and crew work snd helm control are important. Get the boat in the 
>>>> groove on that tack probably she’ll let you know
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:05 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>>> Always pleasantly surprised at the speed of the C&C. This past Sunday 
>>>>> with 10 to 15kn  wind I was sailing from Shelter Island with a friend in 
>>>>> a 92 Morris Justine.  On the a 13 mile run between Orient Point and 
>>>>> Westbrook CT on a beam to close reach the C&C Landfall consistently 
>>>>> outpaced the Morris. By the end we were probably close to 3/4 mile ahead.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I though weight might be the biggest factor but the sail area to 
>>>>> displacement favored the Morris??  Does this come down to hull shape?  
>>>>> Not sure I was out sailing him as I think he was pretty dialed in as 
>>>>> well.   I suppose the Morris may be more built for offshore maybe??  
>>>>> Would love some thoughts from the group!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance!!
>>>>> 
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