> Either way, the chart you linked to kind of proves my point though. It shows that the majority of users are using the latest released OS after less than a year.
52% (in the case of peak Mojave adoption) is a very slight majority unlike in iOS where usually 80-90% of users are on the latest versions. MacOS has already a small market share in the PC world and developing a product for half of that minority (in the best case) is not really a logical business decision. Developing with SwiftUI might make sense for iOS or even Catalyst projects but not for a macOS exclusive product. At least for the next couple of years. On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:08 PM Rob Petrovec <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Nov 14, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Pier Bover <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I wouldn’t be so pessimistic about macOS or even iOS update rates. > > According to StatCounter Mojave never went above 52% or market share, > which means at its peak 48% of users were still on previous versions. > > https://gs.statcounter.com/macos-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide > > I think it will be worse for Catalina. It's anecdotal, but every Mac user > I know will remain in Mojave or even previous macOS versions for the > foreseeable future. Also, every audio software developer I know has been > sending emails to its users to not update to Catalina. Audio forums are > full of people not being able to use their hardware with Catalina because > of some driver problem or something else. > > Market Share is not necessarily the same as upgrade rates. Either way, > the chart you linked to kind of proves my point though. It shows that the > majority of users are using the latest released OS after less than a year. > And at least 25% have adopted Catalina in two months (assuming Catalina is > listed under “Other”). Thats pretty quick, IMO. > > —Rob > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 1:52 PM Rob Petrovec <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I wouldn’t be so pessimistic about macOS or even iOS update rates. Its >> considerably quicker than you think. IMS, they announce upgrade rates >> during public earnings report conference calls typically to brag about how >> well a new OS is being received by the public over previous releases or >> competing OSs. >> >> re Cocoa being deprecated: I think you have some time. A lot of >> apps/components in the OS are written in Obj-C and it is a big undertaking >> to convert them all. Not something that can feasibly be done in a year or >> two. Remember how long it took Finder to switch from Carbon to Cocoa? And >> even then it was half Carbon & half Cocoa. It took a couple releases for >> it be all Cocoa. Not to mention Carbon was officially deprecated in 10.8 >> (back in 2012) and is only now dead in 10.15 (2019). So I think Cocoa >> still has a good number of years of life left before it is deprecated and >> even more years before it is dead. >> >> —Rob >> >> >> > On Nov 14, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Pier Bover via Cocoa-dev < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Well I think the point is to go SwiftUI >> > >> > What if you want to support previous macOS versions older than Catalina? >> > >> > I doubt the majority of users will update to Catalina for at least 1-2 >> > years. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> > Cocoa-dev mailing list ([email protected]) >> > >> > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> > >> > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/petrock%40mac.com >> > >> > This email sent to [email protected] >> >> > _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list ([email protected]) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [email protected]
