On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:03, Raffael Cavallaro wrote:

> Again, someone who doesn't have an expert knowledge of the intended operation 
> of the Finder and an equally experienced knowledge of user expectations 
> shouldn't be doing this.

In the [possibly] few moments that remain before this thread is moderated out 
of existence, I'd like to add that I have *some* sympathy for Jayson's 
perspective.

We keep shooting ourselves in the foot on this list by not first asking enough 
questions. Remember the "thou shalt not forcibly turn the system alert on and 
to maximum volume" thread last year? It turned out to be about hurricane 
warnings, and the good of mankind generally, and puppies. (No, sorry, not the 
puppies.)

In the current case, I was guessing that the trash-emptying was something to do 
with cleaning up in a school lab after classes were over. In such a case, 
forcibly emptying the trash might be a good thing (though the need to do it 
without user interface would be a bit puzzling). 

It turns out that wasn't a correct guess, and we're actually talking about disk 
space recovery. Yet, useful as the concept a disk-space-recovery application 
may be to some types of users, the concept of *reinforcing* a user's ignorance 
(not intended pejoratively) by making a 3rd-party app his/her *usual* way of 
emptying the trash seems a bit misguided. 

Perhaps an application like this *should* invoke the Finder, openly and even 
brazenly ("Now asking the Finder to empty the Trash for you, so that you can 
follow along and see that no puppies are harmed in the process...") in the hope 
of gently re-training the user to, you know, get into the habit of emptying the 
trash without assistance.

And now, back to our regularly scheduled flame wars ...


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