On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 22:22 -0400, Michael Poole wrote: > > Just so people are not left wondering, I have better ways to spend my > time than to debunk emails that are driven by emotion and ignorance of > the subject matter(s) at hand. > _______________________________________________ > Coder-com mailing list > Coder-com@undernet.org > http://undernet.sbg.org/mailman/listinfo/coder-com > > > What subject matters Michael? If you're referring to Laura's statement about > legal matters, I have to agree with her, the world is not bound, or driven, > by U.S. law. If you're a U.S. citizen then you might be, but I'm an aussie, > and like majority on the people of this planet, sure as hell are not, that's > not being spiteful, it's about being factual.
The only thing that US law has to do with anything is that the US -- like 40 other countries, including most of those already mentioned -- has implemented export controls under the Wassenaar Arrangement, and Kev and I are bound by that to not export cryptographic software to certain banned countries, to people on the Denied Persons List, and so forth. Everyone else who has mailed on this thread so far is affected by similar export controls. Other countries -- Russia, China, and Israel to name a few -- require licenses for use of cryptography (although in Israel, the government can declare particular items to be "free means" that do not need a specific license). That is what I meant about making ircu illegal to use in some places. Anyone who feels outraged by "PRISM" type programs should read up on their own local laws about mandatory key disclosure, lawful intercept requirements, and the like; US law provides slightly more protections than most countries' laws. Separately, that two countries got caught red-handed does not mean that other countries are innocent of doing (or attempting) the same kind of thing. Even further: https://www.quakenet.org/articles/99-trust-is-not-transitive-or-why-irc-over-ssl-is-pointless Entrope _______________________________________________ Coder-com mailing list Coder-com@undernet.org http://undernet.sbg.org/mailman/listinfo/coder-com
