On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 04:27 PM, Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
i'm sorry you feel this way rodney. i'd thought i'd made it clear that these criticisms don't apply to you.On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, robert burrell donkin wrote:On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 08:39 PM, Morgan Delagrange wrote:--- robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:<snip>rodney hasn't been a regular contributor to beanutils either in terms of code or on the mailing lists. if he couldn't even be bothered to ask before making himself a committerHe's not required to ask, only to indicate his participation.asking is a matter of politeness and means that his participation is less likely to be vetoed. a committer has responsibilities as well as rights. if i thought that a committer was just dumping code into a component and had no intention of maintaining that code, i wouldn't hesitate to veto.I really offended by this comment, Robert. The commit you refer to was not only well within my rights *and* responsibilities, clearly following both the spirit and letter of the asf, jakarta, and jakarta-commons guidelines, but also well within the bounds of politeness and courtesy. This commit was small (one class, about ~300 lines counting comments and blanks), unobtrusive (no new dependencies, configuration, extra processing or memory use was introduced), fully backwards compatible, and well within the scope of the project. The "commit then review" protocol is clearly appropriate (and polite) in this circumstance. If I need your explicit approval before making a small, unobtrusive, fully backwards compatible and in scope commit, then Guideline #15 (Each committer has karma to all the packages) is meaningless.
i was trying (and failing) to speak in general terms.
the guidelines have an inbuilt mechanism whereby components may - if they wish - prevent a new existing commons committer joining. that is, they can veto the addition of the committers name to the list of developers for the component.
- robert
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