> -----Original Message----- > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > You make it sound as if the Board was off on a lark, when the fact is that > the situation has all too often discussed in many circles, and the Board > has been fairly closely monitoring the project for more than two years. > Nor should it have come as a surprise to the person whose identity should > have been protected, since he has been made aware of concerns often and > privately.
I much prefer that such discussions are open, clear, and unambiguous. I can assure you that my reputation is not at stake here. What is at stake is a new community with great ambitions, passion, and a determination to make it happen, here, at Apache, where our history is. <snip/> > The new work is excellent, and there is a small community of developers > who are devoted to it, but in terms of cost to the community, don't > disregard the facts. Following their muse, they co-opted the project; > determined that the one important piece of the consensus was a unified > platform, without regard for the rest of the consensus; and actively > and openly spoke of both developer AND USER attrition as a means for > as a means for achieving the goal. It got to the point where the bulk > of committers walked out, although some eventually came back to form > the core of the Excalibur project. So when I see a comment that "all of > the active committers" are committed to one platform, I almost have > to laugh. So laugh and have fun. Sure - we talked openly about developer and user attrition. Was that bad? Was it better to stay fragment and unable to really and properly work with other projects as a single community? Yes - attrition comes at a price. Any regrets - sure. Would I do it again given the same circumstances? Probably - yes. Would the outcome be the same? No. You pick up experience along the way and you figure out those things you'd handle differently the next time. Cheers, Steve. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]