On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Philip Brown wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 02:08:50AM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > I think I'm on the same page with you Eric, and I am interested in trying 
> > to 
> > get the various people to at least lay out their needs and/or to work with 
> > Sun to figure out how that can be accomplished.
> 
> [replying to an email moved from osol-discuss]
> 
> Okay, here's what I think is the "needs list":
> 

You forgot the most important one:

0 - reproducibility / modifiability. That's exactly why I don't use 
blastwave or sunfreeware in their current incarnations

>    Addendum: Sun employees should have exclusive access to make changes.
>    "community" folks can always submit patches, whatever, but someone
>    at Sun, officially on behalf of Sun, has to approve and integrate
>    suggested changes.

That will never scale. Something more like the Debian / Fedora Extras 
processes for community maintainership of the community's software 
packages seems saner

> 4. Easy to get/update over the net, with no stupid 
>   "sign/click to get access" limitations.

Amen! Official Sun distribution methods usually involve a much larger PITA 
factor than is necessary ;-)

> 6. The software should be provided as binary packages that are usable by
>    every single "currently supported" version of solaris recognized by Sun.
>    This may mean separate packages, for separate versions of the OS,
>    if extra-special compile options are desirable
>    fine by me. But no leaving Solaris 8 out in the cold, until it is
>    officially EOL'd by Sun.
>    If blastwave can do it, Sun sure as hell should be able to do it :-P

If legacy support comes for free, sure. I don't think it does, though, and 
I'd much rather have a modern system going forward that meets all the 
other community needs

> 7. The software packages need to be freely redistributable in and of
>    themselves. Anyone should be able to take one of the sun packages, and
>    put it on a website/ftp site/cdrom/dvd/bittorrent/WHATEVER, without
>    having to go through extra legal hoops.

Goes hand-in-hand with 4. All the nonsense around, how, for example 
Solaris Express is distributed does dampen adoption....

later,
chris

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