On Friday 21 April 2006 01:33 pm, Philip Brown wrote:
> Why is someone inside sun, making statement about how "desirable" something
> is, when the idea is supposed to be what sun CUSTOMERS want? I think as a
> sun employee, you are disqualified from making those kinds of statements...

Keith is a part of the community as much as anyone else, and more so, he is 
working to help resolve some of these issues. This is not about what Sun's 
customer's want, other than they are a part of the community also. What Keith 
proposed was spot on, IMO, and we need to work towards a unified community 
that has no divisions between internal Sun folks and external community 
folks. Everyone should be one and the same, working together.

Reading Keith's comments insure me that I think Sun has put the right person 
in there to try to help sort some of these issues out. It's not as if Keith 
is doing this without trying to consult the community at large, this is 
afterall how this discussion came to be.

On Friday 21 April 2006 01:37 pm, Philip Brown wrote:
> I mean, sun should support the sun side of the equasion. same as blastwave
> does with our bugtracking system. Anyone should be able to file a bug about
> things like, "This is packaged wrong", or "it doesnt work on my system, and
> here's the symptoms".

I don't see why any of this wouldn't be put in place as the community (and I 
use this in a generic term, Sun is a part of the community afterall;-) forms 
all of this.

> Problems with the actual net version of the software, should be redirected
> to the actual software author (unless the sun person feels energetic ;-)
> Anything fixable on the packaging/compilation/preconfiguration side of
> things, should be fixed, and a new package issued.

These symantics can be worked out, that is only details.

-- 

Alan DuBoff - Sun Microsystems
Solaris x86 Engineering



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