Now let me get this straight. You are saying that employers should
screw as much work out of their employees as they possibly can,
regardless of labor laws, custom, the health of their workers,
human decency, and the employers' long-term best interests and
enlightened self-interest? And if the employees don't roll over
and play dead, and put up with any crap the employers want to dish
out, they're lazy bums who think the world owes them a living?
That's a recipe for the kind of in-effect slavery similar in kind,
if not in degree, to what we used to see in coal country. (Remember
"I owe my soul to the company store? That's based on real life
conditions. I grew up in West Virginia, and we remember those
things.) It's also a recipe for labor unrest and class warfare.
In W. Va., for example, aggrieved workers made quite a lot of use
of dynamite--pretty destructive, but very small potatoes to the
damage an aggrieved computer programmer can do, depending on where
he is placed and how angry he gets.
And as for the Gulag--when I was a kid, I wanted to be a
Kremlinologist. I know a lot more about that system than the
average person today. I don't think we need to have a situation be
100% as bad as the original Gulag archipelago before we deplore it
and do something about it.
--Constance
On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:
Constance I was talking about the comment on Hispanic workers.
If people are not willing to work then they are lazy. If they are
not willing to stay gainfully employed they are lazy.
I think way too much emphasis is placed on workers freedom and not
enough on work.
The working conditions in America are far better than many places
in the world. No one is living in a Gulag here in America.
If you would like to experience a Gulag I can arrange passage for
you to Siberia.
Far too often over exaggerated comparisons are made and we pick up
on them.
Do I make as much as I would like? Heavens no, but I make better
than others.
Work for anyone but yourself and you value is what is set by your
employer and you are expected to make money for your employer or
you no longer have a job.
Want to set your own hours, and make money only for yourself?
Become self employed.
Tom jump in here and tell me if you do not expect your employees
to make money and value for your firm.
Are corporate rules and experiences in this country totally
ethical? No as I said earlier, capitalism has become another ism
with all the trappings of a religion. Until we separate out
capitalism from corporate responsibility it will not change, but
that will take a whole new paradigm.
Stewart
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