Um … no I didn't. And yes, Steve did say that email was a problem. Here, I've done the work for you to find the relevant quote of his post that started this part of the thread:
> It has gotten to the point where the iPhone addicts are now trying to > find ways to avoid being detected by coworkers as they read and write > e-mails, check Facebook accounts or otherwise cause production logjams > because of their addiction problems. So, email *is* part of the problem, according to Steve. And I said it should be part of a solution. If you go back, you'll see that I wasn't the first to say this. Here's the discussion (abridged and sometimes paraphrased): Steve: Those darn kids and their iPhones, emailin' and facebookin' and twitterin' and whatnot, wastin' their time and mine. (Real quote above, and plainly he wasn't really being so curmudgeonly). Tom: Why don't you ask them your questions via their preferred mode of communication? (Actual quote, and he probably means email, considering his next post. Certainly that's what I took him to mean.) Steve: (Likely misunderstanding Tom to be referring to phone calls.) Not a chance. Do you actually think that it would be preferable for workers in close proximity to one another to use phones to communicate with one another as opposed to merely speaking to each other? (Actual quote.) Tom: (Clarifying) I have been sending emails to people who sit right next to me for over 20 years. It is effective and considerate. I'm not barging in… (etc., actual quote.) Stewart: Yes, and email is useful for reminders as well. Me (David): What he said! And the email is right there on the very thing (smart phone) that is distracting them and so is particularly effective at bringing them back to task. You (Mike): You changed the subject to email! Steve never mentioned email! Me: I didn't change the subject. You: You did. Which brings us to now, with me saying "I didn't" again, and backing it up. > From: mike <xha...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing > > Uh...yeah you did...he never mentioned email as a problem. The specific > problems he mentioned were ignored and never addressed. You switched the > topic to email. > > You didn't answer either, do you or your supervisors post work material on > facebook to get things done faster? > > On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM, David K Watson > <davidkirkwat...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> No, I haven't changed the parameters, you are artificially limiting them. >> Anyone who does a substantial fraction of those activities will have >> their email running as well, and will compulsively check emails >> as they come in. >> >> You, for example (quoting from an old post of yours): >> >>> In answer to your specific question, at the time I sent the last email >>> where I said I want to be able to multitask, I was answering an email, >>> on three IRC networks (talking in two channels actively), on IM with >>> a friend in London and checking twitter for a search I'd done. >> >> Of course, I don't think that you were working at that time, but same >> idea. >> >>> From: mike <xha...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing >>> >>> You changed the parameters to make your point. Steve didn't mention >>> email...he was talking facebook, twitter..sms and games. Do the experts >>> recommend putting requests for jobs up on facebook? >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:09 AM, David K Watson >>> <davidkirkwat...@gmail.com>wrote: >> ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
