So, there were some other suggestions on the Incubator list. What do
people think of the Open Connector Framework? OCF? (Granted, it is
silly
to me given it will be the Apache Open Conn. Framework, which still
implies
it is the Apache one.)
Any other suggestions?
On Aug 26, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jack Krupansky wrote:
> Personally, I'd rather see a traditional, Apache-style name, but I can
certainly live with whatever the PMC (?) endorses.
>
> I agree with the general@ criticism that the ACF name comes across as
being the ultimate end-all "connector framework" for Apache land ("land
grab"). We should acknowledge that in the future there might be other
projects that seek to offer "connector frameworks" in Apache land. There
really should be a "handle" to qualify the purely descriptive portion of
the
name - and we had one: Lucene, but it wasn't unique and even there did
not
acknowledge that in the future there could be other "connector
frameworks."
>
> Note: We effectively have a "handle" name today: LCF or ACF, but it is
> a
distinctly non-Apache style of name. Why not go with an Apache-style
name.
That said, I do see that there are a minority of Apache Projects that
have
descriptive names, including HttpComponents, OpenWebBeans, TrafficServer,
Web Services, XML Graphics. Well, there is also "HTTP Server" as well,
but
that is an anomaly since it is really just the original Apache itself.
Maybe
the question is what the current consensus preference is in Apache land
and
trying to go with the flow rather than try to go against the flow.
>
> In short, even if "Connectors Framework" remains the tail end of the
name, a "handle" prefix is needed. Apache is the general prefix for ALL
Apache projects and not a handle for any of them. If that handle is
"Connecto", the full name could be "Connecto Connectors Framework", and
the
official project name would be "Apache Connecto Connectors Framework."
That
said, I am not a fan of trying to put the project description into the
name
in raw English form. So, my preference there would be to drop "Connectors
Framework" from the name and stick with "Connecto", or whatever other
"handle" is chosen.
>
> As I said, I will defer to the PMC (?) endorses, but I would hope that
there is some consistency with current and traditional Apache project
naming
conventions.
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Simon Willnauer" <simon.willna...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 7:50 AM
> To: "Grant Ingersoll" <gsing...@apache.org>
> Cc: <connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: About name change
>
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Grant Ingersoll
>> <gsing...@apache.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it clear that ACF is dead? The concern raised was that it
>>>> implied
>>>> something that connected lots of stuff together, and that's not what
it
>>>> was. But I think that that IS what it is, so the poster knew little
or
>>>> nothing about the project, and was operating from ignorance. Does
>>>> it
make
>>>> sense to clarify what ACF does to the general list first?
>>>
>>> I think it is worthwhile. You want to take a crack at it?
>> Absolutely +1 - I just have the impression that people are already
>> biased by Tomcat Connector etc. but I will be a supporter of Apache
>> Connector FW, no doubt. If it is not an option we can still discuss
>> here!
>>
>> simon
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Simon Willnauer <
>>>> simon.willna...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was following the discussion about changing the name to Apache
>>>>> Connector Framework and the late response from people on gene...@.
>>>>> Obviously we need to decide on something else than Apache
>>>>> Connectors
>>>>> Framework since many people had concerns about the name and
>>>>> possible
>>>>> confusion. I have the impression we should first collect some
>>>>> suggestions about alternative names here before we continue
discussion
>>>>> on the gene...@. Once we have a name we all agreed on and doesn't
>>>>> apply to the concerns others had we should go back and discuss
>>>>> further.
>>>>> Some folks suggested a more abstract name like Apache Connecto
>>>>> which
I
>>>>> personally like (not necessarily Connecto but a more abstract name.
>>>>> Such names have many advantages as people remember short names and
>>>>> they are less ambiguous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> simon
>>>>>
>>>
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