Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Bryan Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Run helix-gnome raw and then mdk's helix-gnome and you'll see what I
> > > > mean : )
> > >
> > > The problem is that with Helix Gnome you'll have only Gnome or Helix
> > > specific programs.
> > >
> > > The good thing of the menu system is that you have the gnome, kde, and
> > > wm-unaware programs in the menus of all your window managers.
> > >
> > > Okay, this costs a bit of the polished style of Helix Gnome, and it's
> > > less cute. It's good for people who know well Gnome, and the apps that
> > > ship with the distributions. But a newbie will like to have all the apps
> > > in his menus.
> >
> > Ok, so if i follow you, you care about newbies,
> > but not about experienced user ?
> >
> > At least, give them the opportunity to use standard menus, period.
> 
> Yes, this is where I agree also.
> 
> And it's not only what Yoann said but also if we dumb down the enviorment too 
> much we're going to end up with stupid users. 
> Now there's nothing wrong having a nice menu system, but I will say that the 
> current menu system is far from nice. 
> 
> Take a look at this 
> http://speedbros.org/menukludge.jpg 

you're missing some icon, already availlable in development version
and gnome-icons tarball

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                -- Yoann http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~yoann/
   An engineer from NVidia, while asking him to release cards specs said :
        "Actually, we do write our drivers without documentation."

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