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I worked for years, in and out of police stations as a vendor's tech rep
and
have seen many cops both on the job and laxing around the station.  It is
probably just as dangerous to generalize about that group as any group,
professional, ethnic or otherwise but...

I saw many (but not all) cops who were serious and dedicated, particularly
in the State Patrol and Federal agencies.  But when you get to the smaller
organizations (county/city/town) you are typically dealing with those who
can't pass the muster to get into a big agency, or are working their way
up.
Many of these cops I saw were gun rannies who were living for the day they
could "blow the perp away".  Conversations of this nature were fairly
regular, but from a minority of the crew.

The point is, far too many cops are in it not because they want to serve,
but because they liked the power of the position, of the hog leg on the
hip.

To answer the question "Who do you call?".  We don't have any choice.  The
real question is "Who would you like to be able to call?"

While many agencies require their members to be armed even while not on
active duty, I don't know one cop, active, off duty or retired, who
doesn't
stay armed.  They KNOW that no one else can protect them.  A retiree in a
state that does not allow for carry permits carries his retirement ID and
isn't arrested on concealed weapons charges due to "professional
courtesy".
Yet publicly they want to limit access to guns to only themselves.  Very
curious.

We fly airplanes under the rule of see and be seen.  I live in an area
where
we generally have unlimited visibility and I am convinced that unless you
know exactly where to look (like in the pattern), you aren't going to see
another plane until it's too late.  We don't have collisions mostly
because
there are few fish in a very big sea.  That's why I won't fly the Victor
Airways, it lowers your odds.  In other words we survive only because we
aren't in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And that goes for being victimized by the bad guys.  If they want to, they
can quietly slice a widow screen and come into your house and if you
aren't
armed, good cops or bad won't matter because they can't be there until
it's
all over.

The system as it is set up assumes deterrence because of capture and
punishment.  Why is it the court houses now have metal detectors and
weapons
searches?  Those who created the system don't trust their own system.

Those enforcement types who are dedicated and honest should start by
turning
in their comrades who take a free cup of coffee.  The standard is: "Not
even
the appearance of inpropriety".  That was the standard I had to live by,
why
not they?

Dick in NM

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Date: Friday, August 11, 2000 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: [COUPERS] Assembly Bill 273:


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>Audean,
>I was just curious, who do you call if you need help when you or your
family ...


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