You raise very valid concerns John Sechrest. @ Zoho Discussions we had
this in mind when we developed the product. Apart from the web based
access, we have active bi-directional emailing too. Of course, you are
welcome to give Zoho Discussions a spin and come back with comments -
for I am sure your feedback will only help improve the product.

Regards
Dhan
Zoho Discussions

On Feb 9, 10:46 pm, John Sechrest <sechr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The difference between mailing lists and forums is much more complex and
> much more subtle that you are outlining here.
>
> I have seen several efforts to move to forums blow up discussions. In
> addition, I have also seen moves like this end up translating into a
> biforcation of the conversation into two different groups.
>
> The choice of how you view data is a critical one. And I totally agree about
> the need for a tool that helps you focus your attention well. For me, google
> groups + gmail does this well.
>
> In general, I have yet to meet a forum that I like. Web based forums hide
> information and make it harder for me to find things. I find this especially
> true of forum sites like NING. (pet peave)
>
> I do not know how zoho forums work, having never used them.
>
> For me, I am immediately suspicious when I see the word forum. Since forums
> usually take me more time to process, take more energy to keep in context.
>
> I suspect it is an information processing style issue, since these are the
> very issues you are trying to address.
>
> I would just urge caution. A shift like this from google groups to zoho
> forums is likely to quietly and subtly alter who is participating, and who
> stays connected to the group.
>
> I have watched other groups have a significant shift of membership with tool
> changes like this.
>
> Be sure you are getting what you think you are getting. And be sure you know
> which audience you are serving with the change.
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Alex Hillman
> <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > So, Woody just suggested that an active thread be moved out of the main
> > channel so as to not disrupt others. While I think it was a good topic to
> > keep in the group's visibility, his question of "can I move this to a sub
> > folder" reminded me of something.
>
> > Google Groups kinda sucks.
>
> > To be fair, it's become our home. This is the most active repository of
> > information for coworking, and the place where I send people first to learn
> > more and meet more coworking people. But the Google Group is anything but
> > good for discovery. Spam moderation is chaos for the people who actively
> > manage it. The lack of sub-threads is annoying, and the lack of message
> > context makes it hard to know what messages to pay attention to.
>
> > Recently, the open source javascript library jQuery moved away from Google
> > Groups for a lot of these same reasons...to Zoho forums.
>
> > I did some research and found that a Zoho forum to support our group would
> > cost $75/month, and incur a one-time $500 fee to migrate all of the existing
> > data (messages, threads, and even users) from Google Groups to Zoho. There's
> > even an option to interact with Zoho via e-mail for those of us that like
> > this.
>
> > The pros:
>
> >    - Much better organization of our knowledge. The ability to set message
> >    "topics" to things like "question", "introduction", "idea" would be HUGE 
> > for
> >    this group.
> >    - Easier on-boarding for new members
> >    - Better spam moderation tools
>
> > The cons:
>
> >    - It's not free
> >    - Since it's not free, somebody needs to pay for it, which means
> >    somebody is ultimately a "keyholder"
>
> > The cons aren't huge, but they do need to be addressed.
>
> > I think this could be a very valuable evolution of this discussion forum
> > that we all love so much. What say you, the coworking group?
>
> > -Alex
>
> > /ah
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