This won't change in ever, for at least the two following reasons: The community has more manpower (finding bugs, fixing them), and the community knows best how the game is played. If you don't want to wait a considerable amount of time for things to get fixed officially, you don't really have a choice. Besides Valvetime, this wouldn't be any different for other games if they had a modding platform like this behind them. The voting system you see in csgo is from L4D1, and still has many of it's bugs and inconveniences that go along with it (vgui issues such as panels showing even if a vote is over - although this happens all over the game, especially with alt-tabbing and on "older" resolutions - and weird things like the possibility to start a kick vote against yourself). The lobby/server-zombie issues we had fixed last year I think (the bug where people could not join certain servers anymore and got some session related message) happened in L4D1 & 2 as well and still does today. So you see there is quite a huge gap between community fixes and official fixes.

On 04.02.2016 22:39, Absurd Minds wrote:

You are correct. People have replicate it offline with no plugins. I think it's ludicrous to imply that this problem should be solved with sourcemod. Valve needs to make these issues work without having to install this party plugins. I'm tired of having to use sourcemod just to get things to work how they're supposed to. *cough*voting*cough*

On Feb 4, 2016 4:28 PM, "Charalampos Galanis" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    So , according to what people said here so far , the issue here is
    valve updated something at their engine , and we just need  3rd
    party plugin owners (AlliedModders) to modify the plugins used in
    order to solve the "bug"? Correct me if I am wrong but I thing
    this is not plugin-related.

    2016-02-01 16:30 GMT+02:00 Geo B. <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        While we are on the topic "Is it still a bug?", maybe we can
        talk about the -nobots option which allow you players to see
        enemies on their radar through smokes ?


        2016-02-01 15:15 GMT+01:00 whocodes <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            I still wouldn't look at this as a bug anyways. As far as
            I can tell this on the ground thing is the new "T-pose"
            (standing straight with the arms spread apart) that we've
            been used to seeing Valve playermodels do without weapons
            for years. They just happened to make that position on the
            ground for these new set of models they released.

            On Jan 31, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Matthias InstantMuffin
            Kollek <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
            wrote:

            More or less. You misunderstood the annotation I made
            regarding community servers. It's irrelevant whether or
            not this happens on an official server or a community
            vanilla setup (topic being the definition of a "bug").
            I'd like to point out that I could not reproduce this
            under normal circumstances. Circumstances being, set up a
            local server with no bots, enabling cheats, switching to
            thirdperson, setting the convar, dropping all weapons.
            But to be fair, no one has done this to themselves in a
            thirdperson perspective, it seems.

            What Niko is basically saying, based on what sourcemod
            does (memory hacking):
            "I'm pseudo-randomly accessing an application's memory,
            modifying it at my own will. Now something in the
            application broke. That's a bug."

            On 01.02.2016 04:07, Don Park wrote:
            As a clarification, what "InstantMuffin" is basically
            saying is this.

            It's not used within the parameters of the
            normal/competitive game itself.  You don't see it being
            used in Competitive, Casual, Deathmatch, etc. Therefore,
            it's not really 100% a bug as the game functions within
            the parameters its originally designed in.

            Now for mods and such they did give us a new cvar that
            we can use to drop the knife, but it's not a clean
            implementation yet (as you can see, there is no "no
            weapon" model available at the moment, therefore it
            defaults to the model lying on the ground).

            It's something that they should look into
            fixing/updating, but I wouldn't say this is a
            particularly important fix as there's more important
            issues to tackle.  But hey that's my two cents.

            - Don


            On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:01 PM, lay295
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                On a local server where I invite my friends the bug
                does happen, same with a
                remote vanilla server without sourcemod. Also on
                reddit when the update went
                live there are tons of people who don't even know
                about sourcemod that
                mentioned it, a lot of people in their own local
                server aswell.

                
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4313nk/glitch_with_the_new_update_when_you_dont_have_a/?ref=search_posts
                
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/43b62m/mp_drop_knife_enable_1_is_great/
                
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/432af3/playing_around_with_the_new_knife_drop_command/
                
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/431f3w/reproducible_bug_from_knife_drop_patch/
                
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/436osj/bug_with_dropping_knife_this_will_be_interesting/

                There's like 10 more threads but don't really wanna
                link them all, it's very
                clearly a glitch reproducible on a vanilla server
                with a convar valve set.



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