This is all well and good. Speculation and examination of possibilities is a good
thing. If you believe that the evidence that is available supports your idea that
(some) UFO's (as I'm sure even you die hard ET believers will admit that some UFO's
fall into other categories, like secret aircraft, misidentification, etc.) are ALIEN
craft being driven/flown by material beings from somewhere other than Earth, then good
for you. That does not mean that everyone has to believe it. But feel free to state
your case accordingly.
I will ask this question again here for you Andrew and others who believe the ET
theory to explain UFO's. IF, UFO's (at least those that are truly anomolous and
unidentified) ARE
NON-human in origin, as you allege, then what evidence is there that they are MATERIAL
craft being driven/flown by ALIEN beings from somewhere other than Earth, and not, for
example, extradimensional, or demonic, or as yet unidentified natural phenomena? Even
if one was to resort to the abduction phenomenon and rely on abductees totally
subjective experience to go by, what evidence is there that the beings they purport to
see and interact with are LIVING and MATERIAL and from somewhere other than Earth? If
one was to accept that they told the abductee that they were from Orions Nebula (or
wherever) and that they were here for (whatever reason) what evidence is there that
they are not LYING to cover up some other thing?
Some UFO's MAY be craft from elsewhere but let us not be so demanding that one
explanation fit the bill, and let us get priorities of evidence in line. It is MUCH
more probable that UFO's are something other than alien driven craft from somewhere
other than Earth, and that is true no matter what way you slice it. BUT, that does
not mean they all are or that none of them are alien driven craft from somewhere else.
Let us at least be circumspect in how we handle "evidence" and not give less likely
explanations more weight than they deserve simply because it supports our mindset.
Extraterrestrial life? Yes.
Extraterrestrial Intelligent life? MY OPINION and belief is, NO.
UFO's fall in several categories as to identity. See my earlier post for some of my
ideas, each of which has, in my opinion a degree of probability, as does the idea that
UFO's are alien craft. I think the preponderance of evidence (as well as physics and
logic) make the ET origin of UFO's a very low probability, though NOT zero by any
means.
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Andrew Hennessey wrote:
>
> At 01:14 AM 26, 05, , 2000 EDT, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 5/24/00 10:34:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> BUT one must not think that your ideas are beyond criticism, SO if you post
> >> then there will be people who disagree, and if you have a theory some may
> >> want proof in support of it.
> >
> > I'd never dream that my ideas are above criticism, and never once implied
> >otherwise. I think the screech level that arises on this list when anyone
> >brings up the subject of UFOs is quite telling. There's plenty of evidence,
> >anecdotal and otherwise, that unidentified objects have been flying in our
> >skies for a century or more. There's evidence, not proof. But what do any
> >of us have that is proof of anything? Have you ever met Clinton? Are you
> >sure he exists? Could he be a digital image? If you met him, can you prove
> >he wasn't a cyborg? I mean, get real.
> >
> >Samantha
>
> thanks samantha - I was going to use the china argument - if you've never
> been there and touched it - how do you know it physically exists.
> There is as much 'proof' for china as there is for ufo's - in fact the
> physical proof of ets and their DNA already exists from a strand of hair
> analysed after an abduction in australia etc
> Its a form of debate called Logical Realism 'touch verification theory' and
> in the case of ufo's [with miles of camcorder footage from all over the
> planet - really massive compilations of footsge, archaeological evidence
> etc] - is used out of context here on this list.
>
> There's nothing wrong with trying to be rational - but much in the same way
> that we should run with the inductive hypothesis that there is a place
> called china - and see where it leads - see where the conspiracy is - so we
> should be running with the not very vast conjectural leap that there are
> ETs - and see where that leads - where the conspiracy is.
>
> Lets all rationally analyse the belief system that there are ETs colluding
> with government agencies - an analysis prevented by the denial of ETs.
>
> andrew
>
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