On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Eagle 1 wrote:

> May I add...
> Jesus was rejected by the Pharisees' temple cult of darkness. In fact, Jesus
> said: "This is your hour and the power of darkness." (Luke 22:53) Regardless
> of how many may try, no one will ever be able to apply this identification
> of the overspreading of the abomination desolation over the Temple and
> Jerusalem to anyone else. Jesus was crucified by these same ones who took
> Him. (Luke 22:52-54)
>
> Regardless of how hard many try, the evil deed of rejecting and plotting the
> murder of Jesus can never be attributed to Rome Imperial or Rome Papal.
> Regardless of how hard some deny it, the Apostles always accused the
> Phariseees of this wicked and evil deed (Acts 2:23; 3:14-15; 7:52; 1
> Thessalonians 2:15; James 5:6). The Romans were trapped into this murder by
> the Sanhedrin and coercing Pilate with threats of reporting him to Rome for
> allowing another man in the Roman Empire to be called a King. The Romans
> were never blamed by the Apostles for the death of Jesus.
>
> eagle 1

That is a well written essay, Eagle 1. I have been on the L-Torah list for
a couple of years now and I can't find anything in the New Testament which
would be in conflict with the Torah. So 2,000 years ago there was a Jewish
schism. One faction made a big mistake. The other carried on deeming Jesus
Christ to be the "Prince of the Prophets". The Anti-Christ/Talmudic
faction was pre-eminent in the holocaust of 66 million in Russia and
neighbouring countries (up to 1957 according to Solzhenitsyn). J2's point
that "real Jews don't worship a man" doesn't hold water. Followers of
Christ do not worship the man any more than people going to a temple or
synagogue worship the physical structures there.
FWP

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> > Your response illustrates my contention exactly.  The Roman rulers of
> Palestine had the final say in all executions, it is a historic fact.  The
> Jews could not condemn anyone, it had to be the Roman legal system that did
> it, so Pilate could not wash his hands.  There is no historical evidence of
> there ever being any practice of allowing people to be freed for Passover or
> any other holiday, prisoners stayed in prison or were executed, never
> released because people wanted it.  Jesus was a prisoner of the Romans, not
> the Jews.  Jesus was killed by Roman soldiers, on the orders of Roman
> rulers.  But if you want to believe the Pharisees or anyone else was at
> fault be my guest.
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