Thanks for the clarifications,  FWP.
I've never found anything of conflict in the Torah myself.

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The subject matter, however, is the *Talmud Exposed*,  which,  in my
opinion,  is full of men's opinions, declarations, council decisions, and
false information regarding 'Thus saith the Lord',  when HE never said it.
The Old Testament if full of curses and warnings against those who claim to
speak for God,  when they were not authorized to speak.  Warnings continue
in the New,  specifically in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and throughout the
Revelation. These "false ones" are who Christ so adamantly warned about...
i.e. accepting men's opinions, declarations, and false information INSTEAD
OF the Words of God.  THIS Judaistic/Babylonian Talmud conglomerate of
disinformation is the antichrist foundation, and is considered a gate to
hell,  even of which many Christian factions allow to prevail over their
church doctrines to this day.  The word antichrist specifically denotes
"INSTEAD of CHRIST",  not necessarily one who is 'against' Christ.  There is
a difference.

Who,  of most religious sects,  rejects Christ most vehemently?   Utilizing
the stones, that is,  calculating the number of the beast,  we find by
historically recounting the steps and smooth stones of those who claim they
are Jews but are not,  and these are truly 'anti-christ' .  Once it is
realized,  and one sees for themselves by tracing the history over a long
period of time,  this adds up to one thing and one thing only...
A clear cut conspiracy of lies and alibis by a certain faction exists...
by those who set out to influence and brainwash as many in the WHOLE world
as they could.  What better place to brainwash,  but from the pulpit of
every denomination... ???
simply because it is a known fact that people are willing to believe a man
who stands in a pulpit or position of leadership in a church or synagogue.
Most people are brainwashed from the pulpit,  because they are afraid or
don't know or don't care to know that they can question and research for
themselves the tenents of any denomination and find out the truth for
themselves.  Most religious leaders don't want you to do this,  then they
lose control.  Instead, they would rather to continue to mesmerize their
congregations, lulling them into a false sense of security...   a false
sense of peace and safety,  with their false doctrines within church and/or
synagogue doors.  You can turn on certain religious TV stations and see
people nodding their heads in agreement to perfect lies,  or you will see a
three ringed circus of so called 'faith healing' going on...  or wild
laughing...  the throwing of blankets on people,  the magical changing of
water to wine, etc.,  etc.,
and all things done proudly in the name of God...

It is merely a great wonder... and should be a giant sign to BEWARE.
Jesus never healed anyone by knocking them over...  or laughing...
He told nearly everyone of whom he healed to rise and walk,
with no dramatics.

Jesus called the religious leaders of his time, "vipers", "hypocrits" and
"tares".  We know why he called them vipers...  Their religious and
spiritual venom is lethal.  We know why he called them hypocrits...  because
they 'act' like they speak for God,  when nothing could be further from the
truth, but these are nothing more than play actors.  But, why did he call
them tares?  Because they look so much like the real thing that until the
maturity time comes, [i.e. judgment]   that even an expert would have
trouble telling the tare from the real.  And so it is...  regarding those
who say they are Jews,  but are not... (Rev 2:9 and 3:9)...  It is extremely
difficult to tell the real Jews from the fakes.  Look at it this way,  only
a well-trained eye can tell the counterfeit from the genuine...

Christ said, "... take heed to yourselves:  for they shall deliver you up to
councils;  and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten;  and ye shall be
brought before rulers and kings for MY sake,  for a testimony against them."
~Mark 13:9
-and-
"... Ye shall be hated of all [council men] for my name's sake:  but he that
shall endure unto the end the same shall be saved.
When ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the
prophet standing where *he* [it] ought not, (let him that readeth
understand.) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains;  and let
him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment..."
~Mark 13:13-16

What councils are these that people will be delivered up to?  It will be
much the same as the council of the Sanhedrin, those who hold to certain
doctrinal beliefs that you will be expected to believe in also,  or else.
It is specific that some will even be delivered to the synagogue...  to be
beaten,  no less.  And who holds to the councils and tenents of the Talmud?
Note that Christ did not use the generalized word 'church' here...  There is
only one group that utilizes a synagogue for worship.   WHY did he point to
the synagogue?  Because he wants us to look in a certain place for the roots
of the fakes.  He reiterates exactly who the fakes are in Revelation 2:9 and
3:9.

When the abomination of desolation takes over the Holy Place,   that is when
it is re-established and those ordinances that were done away with,  i.e.
the temple building, and blood sacrifices are reinstituted;  he said to flee
Jerusalem.  No one is going to want to be in that geographical area when the
one coming as the Messiah,  steps foot on the mount of Olives,  (to claim to
be Messiah,  as he will have to follow the protocol to the 'T')  magnifying
himself and claiming to be God,  sitting where HE ought not.

Those who have believed in this false messiah,  even those who believed
ignorantly, because of the propaganda put out by the fake Jews [the
councils], and the false prophets,  these will believe as the councils will
believe...  unity of the faith(s) [note: plural].  This will come to pass in
a very short period of time because the time of the antichrist reign has
been cut short...
"... And EXCEPT THOSE DAYS SHOULD BE SHORTENED,  there should no flesh be
saved; but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
~Matthew 24:22
Those days of the antichrist rule have been shortened to five months...
"... And to them it was given that they should not kill them but that they
should be tormented FIVE MONTHS; . . ."
~Revelation 9:5
"For there shall be false Christs [Messiahs;  those who claim to speak for
God],  and false prophets,  and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch
that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold [take warning],  I have told you before. [I have warned you in
advance]."
~Matthew 24:24-25

Let's face it...
The blood of bulls and goats does not redeem sin.
"...For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take
away sins."
~Hebrews 10:4
"And every priest standeth daily ministering and oftentimes the same
sacrifices, which can never take away sins;   But this man, [Christ], after
he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand
of God."
~Hebrews 10:11-12

The Talmud IS exposed...
There is no hope in redemption of sin within it's tenents,  i.e. salvation.
There is nothing that continues the Blessed Hope of Abraham, i.e. hope for
Messiah.
And certainly, the fear that is used as a rod of iron is the Law.
And the LAW never saved anyone.

And just as the devil has wrath,
because he knows he has but a short time,
so have those,  the same who support the Talmud...
But,  then again,  who is it that they work for?
What branding do they bear?

Common sense bears witness to the truth.

eagle 1


----- Original Message -----
From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed


> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Eagle 1 wrote:
>
> > May I add...
> > Jesus was rejected by the Pharisees' temple cult of darkness. In fact,
Jesus
> > said: "This is your hour and the power of darkness." (Luke 22:53)
Regardless
> > of how many may try, no one will ever be able to apply this
identification
> > of the overspreading of the abomination desolation over the Temple and
> > Jerusalem to anyone else. Jesus was crucified by these same ones who
took
> > Him. (Luke 22:52-54)
> >
> > Regardless of how hard many try, the evil deed of rejecting and plotting
the
> > murder of Jesus can never be attributed to Rome Imperial or Rome Papal.
> > Regardless of how hard some deny it, the Apostles always accused the
> > Phariseees of this wicked and evil deed (Acts 2:23; 3:14-15; 7:52; 1
> > Thessalonians 2:15; James 5:6). The Romans were trapped into this murder
by
> > the Sanhedrin and coercing Pilate with threats of reporting him to Rome
for
> > allowing another man in the Roman Empire to be called a King. The Romans
> > were never blamed by the Apostles for the death of Jesus.
> >
> > eagle 1
>
> That is a well written essay, Eagle 1. I have been on the L-Torah list for
> a couple of years now and I can't find anything in the New Testament which
> would be in conflict with the Torah. So 2,000 years ago there was a Jewish
> schism. One faction made a big mistake. The other carried on deeming Jesus
> Christ to be the "Prince of the Prophets". The Anti-Christ/Talmudic
> faction was pre-eminent in the holocaust of 66 million in Russia and
> neighbouring countries (up to 1957 according to Solzhenitsyn). J2's point
> that "real Jews don't worship a man" doesn't hold water. Followers of
> Christ do not worship the man any more than people going to a temple or
> synagogue worship the physical structures there.
> FWP
>





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