-Caveat Lector- > -----Original Message----- > From: Molli Wolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jim Jones NOT CIA??? > > Yes, Dale there is truth in what you say (below). But I > think that one can come to conclusions. One does not reach > a hopeless "who knows" impasse.
Alas, Molli, from my once-agreement with that statement many years ago, I have settled in a place where I am not convinced it is possible to "prove" anything. Things can be "known," but not from gathering so-called "facts." I invoke the example of the blind men and the elephant which seems to demonstrate that all "reality" is but individual perception within the mind. > One must look at the larger > context & do some analysis. Certainly, although some contexts are larger than others. Conclusions are like labels, once they are applied or reached thinking seems to stop. > Certain parties have an obvious > motive to mis-represent. Yes, and for various reasons. Some seek money or power; unfortunately this category also includes those who merely wish to be "right," making others "wrong" by "proving" their particular viewpoint. I can only "prove" that which I have experienced myself, and even then the person next to me witnessing the same event may have an entirely different perception. > Looking at the mass media treatment of 9-11 vs what is > available on the internet - one can see that the mainstream > sources speak with one voice, with a unanimity that simply > would not be there if we really had a 'free press'. That > unanimity is very scary. Sadly true. It seems they see their role as reporting and not critically thinking. > Reading publications by the CFR, the Tri-lateral > Commission and various UN bodies, and globalist spokesmen > like Brezizinski and Kissinger also, if one knows how to de- > code some of their carefully neutral language/code, one can > see that they are talking not about what is inevitably > going to come to pass in the future... I have concluded (guessed) that national sovereignty and democracy have been a carefully-maintained illusion for anywhere from 85-150 years. Once money was perceived as necessary to live (moving the people off self-sufficient farms), naturally those in control of banking controlled all non-self-sufficient peoples. > ...the globalists .... consciously > chose to let the 3rd world populations explode and yet the Global 2000 report states clearly the goal of reducing the population of Earth to 500 million by the year 2000, which was an absolute failure. Even so, this goal clearly conflicts with the assumed desire of international bankers to have as many consumers as possible paying as much interest as possible. Either there are two groups at odds with one another or they are a group operating in self conflict and why?... > So one can come to some conclusions is my main point. Yes. It is when those conclusions are in conflict that I am forced to take a step back and this happens over and over. > the globalists badly want a disarmed citizenry.... It appears that way. However if it has been known and understood by world leaders for 50-100 years that all weapons developed by humans are powerless in the big picture of the 3D universe, the whole issue is meaningless. MacArthur, Eisenhower and Reagan all dropped hints in public speeches about this probability, and there is a very long list of retired and active military leaders well aware of this. Some don't accept it nonetheless. > Also > it is very important to try to wake up more of the sleeping > citizenry - we desperately need more who are awake & aware, Absolutely true. My view is that most of them would prefer death to waking up - and that may be what they will get if they continue to snooze. > > Your thoughts in response would be appreciated... My view seldom gets smaller than planetary; although I am documented as a citizen of the USA my true citizenship is of the universe. The purpose of the universe in my view is learning, which takes place on an individual and group basis at many levels. Since learning is independent of duality and polarity, I do not concern myself much with the game of good-evil, male-female, etc. etc. etc. Refusing to play this game can be quite upsetting to others who are deep into the game. But as Popeye says, I yam what I yam. DS > > molli > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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