On Saturday 31 October 2015 16:18:15 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > El 31/10/15 a las 10:05, Richard Owlett escribió: > > Martin Read wrote: > >> On 31/10/15 12:02, Chris Bannister wrote: > >>> Logically, doesn't it make more sense to make it so that you > >>> install > >>> with the minimum number of packages necessary, and then > >>> download any > >>> extra packages you want *after* the install? > >> > >> Only if you accept austere minimalism as axiomatically good. > > > > *YES* <grin> > > That 'yes' would not have been so bold except Debian defaults go too far > > in the other direction. E.G. I just installed Squeeze to one machine be > > cause I like some Gnome2 features that Gnome3 zapped and I'm not sure > > exist in MATE (am investigating). > > > > Applications->Internet lists 8 applications, none of which are of > > interest and does not list the only internet application I need > > (SeaMonkey). > > System->Administration lists 10 applications, only 1 of which I use more > > than once a month (Synaptic) and doesn't list one I use almost daily > > (Gparted). > > > > I'm working on learning debootstrap and multistrap to have things > > suitably minimal and powerful simultaneously. > > I have also noticed that Debian installs a lot of "extra" programs by > default. For example, when I installed LXDE using the latest (Debian 7) > LXDE CD and, I obtained LibreOffice, Iceweasel and Deluge (among many > others), none of which are part of LXDE, and of those, I only wanted > Icweasel installed since the beginning. > > If you want to control more precisely which packages get installed, you > can also install a text-only system and then add the additional packages > with the package manager. It won't give the same results and isn't as > flexible as Debootstrap or Multistrap, of course.
It isn't Debian that installs all those packages. It's the DE. All anyone has to do to avoid them is not install a DE. You are given the option. Lisi
