I have the same configuration as you except I have SmarterMail instead of 
IMail.  The problem I run into is that sometimes Declude fails to make any IP4R 
tests, but SmarterMail catches the spam using the same IP4R tests.  I had this 
problem with version 2 and version 3.  I went through Declude support, but the 
issue was never resolved to my satisfaction.  I was told to use WINSOCKCLEANUP 
among other things, but that didn't solve the problem.  The volume of mail on 
my server is relatively low, so I never get the back up problem you describe, 
and the failure occurs so irregularly that I basically just gave up on it.  

Gary Steiner



 -------- Original Message --------
> From: "Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:08 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc causing dns queries to fail
> 
> Thank you for the feedback.  There is no firewall between my mail server
> and my DNS server.  The DNS server is running without issue and resolves
> names just fine on all other workstations and servers even when the
> issues on my mail server arise.  When the issue presents itself, the
> mail server alone is unable to establish a connection to the DNS.
> During the first instance, I verified multiple times that the DNS server
> was resolving properly and noted that the mail server could not
> establish a connection with any of the five DNS servers I tried.  After
> the decludeproc service was restarted, I could once again establish the
> connection for DNS and mail processing started again.  However, with
> 500k messages in queue it took less than a half hour for the problem to
> happen again.  My solution at the time, which I am not happy with, was
> to purge the proc folder.  Without such overhead it ran fine for weeks.
> 
> The second time this happened a few days ago, I verified all my pervious
> findings.
> 
> I can guarantee with absolute certainty that there are no DNS issues at
> the root of this problem.  The sole cause and solution lie with the
> decludeproc service and its consumption of resources on my mail server.
> 
> I just wrote a program to monitor the number of files in the proc folder
> and restart the decludeproc service if it exceeds 2000.  This will be
> enough to ensure that this doesn't happen again, but I do wish to make
> this issue known so it can be avoided or diagnosed in the future.
> 
> I am currently running Win2003/sp1, Imail 8.12 with declude pro 3.0.5.22
> running spam and antivirus with f-prot. 
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:40 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc causing dns queries to fail
> 
> Will,
> 
> If Decludeproc was usurping network resources we should be aware of this
> issue. However currently you are the only report of this incident.
> Please
> make sure you are running the latest version of declude 3.0.5.23
>  
> Declude has sent out DNS requests and did not recieve responses from the
> DNS
> server, this is an indication of a DNS issues with your Network.. 
> 
> 1. Check your firewall and ensure Port 53 is open.
> 2. Check your Firewall/Router logs to make sure incoming DNS packets are
> not
> being blocked
> 3. Check for potential Network problems
> 4. Check that you DNS is working correctly. 
> 
> If you find it to be one of these reasons listed above it is a DNS issue
> and
> not a Declude issue. BTW this is posted in our Knowledge base.  
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:22 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] decludeproc causing dns queries to fail
> 
> 
> 
> For the second time in a month I have come to work to find over 500,000
> messages in my proc folder.  The cause is declude's inability to perform
> dns
> queries, thus mail backlogs.  The reason declude cannot perform DNS
> queries
> is that no outgoing traffic is being permitted on port 53.  The reason
> no
> outgoing traffic is being permitted on port 53 is that decludeproc has
> consumed the resources allocated to my network interface.  The fix for
> this
> is relatively simple.  I stop the decludeproc service and restart it and
> all
> is well.   
> 
>  
> 
> After the first occurrence, it was suggested that I enable
> winsockcleanup
> documented as the following at declude.com:
> 
> WINSOCKCLEANUP    ON
> Located in Declude.cfg. Some customers had issues related to their
> network
> stack causing loss of functionality for basic network operations. The
> default for this directive is OFF 
> 
> Now I've been fooled twice, so I guess shame on me.  Does anyone have a
> suggestion that would help resolve this?  In the meantime I will be
> writing
> a script to monitor the number of message in the proc folder and if it
> reaches a certain threshold, will restart the decludeproc service.  I
> really
> don't care for workarounds such as this, but I've gained a bad image
> over
> these two occurrences and I cannot allow it to happen again.
> 
>  
> 
> Declude.cfg:
> 
> THREADS                   100
> 
> WAITFORMAIL                     5000
> 
> WINSOCKCLEANUP           ON 
> 
> 
>


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