Although I do not use SmarterMail, my take is these are like T files in
Imail where it is not a complete message, but for some reason SmarterMail is
allowing Declude to have them even though they are not complete.

John T
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
> Steiner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:13 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006
> 
> Here is SmarterTools take on the problem:
> 
> > Failed is written to the .hdr if the message was not succesfully
recieved via SMTP.
> For
> > instance, if the connection is closed mid transmission. These(and
corresponding
> .emls) are
> > normally just deleted by SmarterMail. The only reason you are noticing
them is
> because of
> > Declude storing them in the error folder.
> 
> The implication is that Declude is interrupting part of SmarterMail's
normail process.
> Now I know this is essentially what Declude does anyway, but shouldn't
Declude know
> the difference between a message that has finished SMTP and SmarterMail is
ready to
> deliver, and a message that is incomplete in the SMTP process and an SMTP
retry is
> occurring so this failed message should be ignored?  Otherwise we are
going to get
> thousands of unneccessary incomplete messages dumped into the error folder
that is
> going to do nothing other than to take up disk space.  Not to mention that
if some
> other type of error occurs that puts a message in the error folder, we'll
never find it
> because its buried under all these other superfluous messages.  Before
4.2.20, this
> wasn't a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:24 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > This is a SmarterMail issue. When they fail to complete the .hdr file
they
> > write "Failed" in the .hdr as this was causing major spam leakage for
> > declude we decided to move  incomplete messages to the \error folder.
You
> > could try changing the "Failed" to Written and drop the messages in the
> > \spool.
> >
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
> > Steiner
> > Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 2:52 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: re: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006
> >
> > Now that I've installed 4.2.20, I'm getting a lot of messages in the
error
> > folder (I'm running SmarterMail 3.3.2369).  Most of them seem to be
spam,
> > but there are some good messages in there.  Am I now going to have to
scan
> > this folder for false positives just like the held spam folder?
> >
> > Here is an example of the .hdr file for a message that was good:
> >
> > Failed
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cmdspc: false
> > helo: ivmail1.fcc.es
> >
> > What does "Failed" mean?  Is there something I can look for in the
headers
> > of the message (in the .eml file) that would indicate this?  Is there
any
> > way to requeue this message?
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:01 AM
> > > To: Declude.Virus@declude.com>, <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.2 build 20 Released 6 July 2006
> > >
> > > EVA       ADD     New NONSTANDARDHDR vulnerability test. Messages
found to
> > > have broken headers are moved to the \virus folder
> > >
> > > EVA       FIX     ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM (for user)
> > >
> > > EVA       FIX     BANEXT buffer overflow
> > >
> > > SM        ADD     When an error is found in the envelope (.hdr) file
the
> > > message is moved to the \error folder
> > >
> > > SM        ADD     Decludeproc will not start without a valid
domainlist.xml
> > >
> > > SM        FIX     QUEUEFILE_SAVEFILE the log is showing the correct
directory
> > > path
> > >
> > > SM        FIX     Allows admin to set VIRDIR to any directory path in
the
> > > virus.cfg
> > >
> > > David Barker
> > > Product Manager
> > > Your Email security is our businessT
> > > 978.499.2933 office
> > > 978.988.1311 fax
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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