Mike Shaver wrote: > On 12-Dec-05, at 8:33 PM, Till Kamppeter wrote: > >> And we all were of the opinion that >> the GNOME printing dialog (and also the printing dialogs of Firefox and >> Thunderbird) needs improvement. > > > Before Firefox 1.0, there was much kerfuffle over this, and out of that > came a pledge from someone in the GNOME camp to separate the > gnome-print dialog system from the gnome-print "you must render through > this" system, such that the dialog could be used on GNOME desktops. I > don't think it ever materialized, though I can't be bothered to look > for the bug now. After the amount of crap I took for pushing to get > the GNOME file dialog in -- and I mean that it was the single biggest > usability complaint from our Linux user community by several orders of > magnitude -- I was in no real rush to go that route again. I remain > unrushed, but if people want to do the work (including the user-testing > work, keeping in mind that we actually care about GNOME installations > that are more than a year old, etc.) then there's probably time to get > it changed in Firefox 2 if the patch is good enough. > > (The KDE people are much less vitriolic about how Firefox is wearing > white after Labour Day on their desktop, for whatever reason, and > nobody has bothered to even wire up the file dialog, except for one > frustrated hacker who used GNOME.) > > Of course, we support more than just Linux in the Unix-printing world, > but if the time has come for an XP_LINUX that differs from XP_UNIX, or > even XP_LINUX_GNOME, then I'd be willing to hear a pitch for it. > >> Today I talked with Frederic Crozat, GNOME packager/maintainer and >> desktop developer here at Mandriva, and David Barth, vice president for >> engineering, about the development of the printing dialogs in GNOME, >> Firefox, and Thunderbird. > > > I *humbly* submit that that group is not the right set of people to be > discussing the future of the printing model in Firefox and > Thunderbird. By all means put together a proposal for improving how we > print on Linux, but please don't think that it will be accepted simply > by fiat (even my mighty fiat, ahem!). I also caution against what > we've seen as a pattern so far, which is "well, then we'll just patch > our build", for various reasons that aren't really appropriate for this > list. > > Mike > >
I think, the Firefox/Thunderbird dialog has to be replaced urgently, I do not know how the original one looks like (I am on Mandriva 2006), but when one clicks on "Properties" and gets a cryptic printing command line to edit, I think this is far from user-friendly. Then a long list of PPD options is already MUCH better. What are the exact rquirements for a Firefox/Thunderbird printing dialog? Who in the Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird team is responsible for the dialog? So that one can talk with him. Till _______________________________________________ Desktop_architects mailing list Desktop_architects@lists.osdl.org https://lists.osdl.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop_architects