On Oct 6, 2017 07:50, "Boris Zbarsky" <bzbar...@mit.edu> wrote:

On 10/6/17 9:52 AM, Nicolas B. Pierron wrote:

> I will add that 91% of the session on release have 12 or fewer tabs, and
> thus would not be concerned at all by these changes.
>

Do we actually know that?

As I said upthread, at the 100px tab width my tabs start to scroll when
adding the 9th tab.



This is highly dependent on screen size. For me it's 12, for you 9, on
large desktop LCD monitors probably 20+.

The more interesting comparison to me is "tab identifiability" ( heh ) vs
chrome, which is a complex issue. Feedback has included questions about
reduced identifiability with two extreme points of view expressed: people
who think favicons are enough, and people who need some tab title context.
I take very seriously the use case for the latter expressed here - lots of
tabs opened to the same site.

In this first phase, the question is, what is the minimum thing we can do
to tackle this issue and the feedback. We've uncovered a number of aspects
of the tab design that impact "tab identifiability" that causes problems
for some users at various settings, but a more complex patch to address
these in some way is out of scope. We simply don't have time.

To bring this discussion to a conclusion, after some discussion in the second
bug <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1406478> we're landing a
patch that re-introduces the preference, and sets the minimum to 76. There
are some remaining edge cases that aren't a great experience, but we think
the improvement is worthwhile overall and in particular having the pref
available is necessary as this seems to be a very polarizing issue.

Stephen and I will be working wit the UX and frontend teams on strategies
to mitigate the problems we uncovered by looking into this, I hope to see
things improve over the next few cycles.

thanks, Jeff



-Boris

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