Sure, we can make it public for posterity if that will alleviate concerns about openness. I don't think it will provide any value to do so because it will create 2 channels for the same group and will then be super hard for anyone to follow a conversation. As it is, with JIRA emails, PR emails, and dev list emails, I find it impossible to keep up. I'm completely unable to keep up with most gitter conversations as it is.
I'd vote to just delete that channel. Gitter, AFAIK, does not support the option to provide a read only archive of a dead (unjoinable) channel, so I feel closing the channel via filing an infra request is the best route. Ironically, the committers' channel above was created prior to the Apache Incubation move to discuss the move to Apache and to coordinate the work required. Once Airflow moved to the Apache Incubator and the Git repo's ownership transitioned to the ASF Infra team, we (the members of the channel) lost the ability to delete this channel and let it continue its life out of laziness. -s On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > So we ask infra to make it public? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 23 aug. 2016, at 04:02, siddharth anand <san...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > No one on this thread owns that channel, so all we can do is leave it. > The > > owner is ASF Infra. > > > > -s > > > >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jakob Homan <jgho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Gitter is fine and the public channel I linked to in the original > >> email is fine. It's functionally no different than IRC. The channel > >> just has to be open for any one rather than invite only. > >> > >> -Jakob > >> > >> > >> On 22 August 2016 at 13:10, Maxime Beauchemin > >> <maximebeauche...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I think Gitter must have just transferred along as we moved the repo. > I'm > >>> personally open to using IRC. > >>> > >>> Max > >>> > >>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bolke de Bruin <bdbr...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Also who is the owner of this room? It seems created by Apache so they > >>>> (INFRA?) can set it to public? Logs will be public then by default. > >>>> > >>>> Wasn't there some discussion on a more relaxed requirement of this > >>>> happening on ASF infrastructure? > >>>> > >>>> Bolke. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On 22 aug. 2016, at 20:29, Jakob Homan <jgho...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hey all- > >>>>> Apparently there is a private channel being used for project > >>>>> discussion on gitter (the archive would be here: > >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/Airflow_ > >>>> committers/archives/all, > >>>>> similar to the public archive of the regular gitter channel: > >>>>> https://gitter.im/apache/incubator-airflow/archives/all), titled > >>>>> "Airflow_committers." > >>>>> > >>>>> As has been discussed before, all non-PMC level ASF communication > >>>>> *has* to be in a public accessible forum (preferably that is archived > >>>>> to an ASF list). Even if well intentioned, these channels are > >>>>> exclusionary and absolutely verboten per ASF. > >>>>> > >>>>> We need to open or shut that channel down and make sure we note this > >>>>> on the next IPMC report... > >>>>> > >>>>> -Jakob > >> >
